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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: LuckyLefty on July 20, 2005, 12:55:34 AM
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MAy have just learned something more!
Called Columbia yesterday to get info on a ball for my son.
Talked to a guy that was very helpful.
Described to me this ball
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=3&BallID=453
Explained to me there was a light particle load in ball that made it just a touch more oil friendly than the original messenger...Ah Hah!
Go back to the description... where is that.
Another one we talked about was this.
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=3&BallID=543
He stated..."maybe a touch more particle, this is one of our earliest rolling balls".
I hope these weren't trade secrets BUT, knowing these things can help a lot.
It has been my idea lately that many more balls than we realize have a slight or very light particle load. For whatever reason ball manufacturers really aren't in to telling or admitting this for marketing purposes. But it is true.
I have often thought that almost all of the track balls were particle. The Havoc a glowing example...suppossed to almost be a remake of the Night Hawk with a reactive shell. boy does that thing move early if not glossed up.
My Hyde seems to be a real pure reactive! Very long if polished for a solid!
Anyway. Great info, I think that because of today's very vicsous oils that there are few pure reactives around. And while the trend is away from the heavy particle loads of 5 years ago there are lots of balls with loads in the 2 3 and 4 percent range I feel.
REgards,
Luckylefty
Edited on 7/20/2005 8:50 AM
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It has been my idea lately that many more balls than we realize have a slight or very light particle load. For whatever reason ball manufacturers really aren't in to telling or admitting this for marketing purposes. But it is true.
I bought the AMF Velocity because it WAS (still is) marketed as a particle. Guys from AMF will readily admit that it is a very, very light load. From Pat Nolan: "The Velocity has just a small amount of particle (1/4 of 1%)"
I think at that level, it probably isn't even worth mentioning that there is a particle load in the cover at all. I don't know that much about particles and load levels, but 0.25% doesn't sound like it will make that much of a difference, but, IMBW.
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I think at that level, it probably isn't even worth mentioning that there is a particle load in the cover at all. I don't know that much about particles and load levels, but 0.25% doesn't sound like it will make that much of a difference, but, IMBW.
0.25% may not sound like much, but if 1% is considered a heavy-load, then 0.25% is more than it seems.
What's a typical particle load? The Phenom is considered a high-load particle ball, what's the percentage there? Or the Goliath? Or the ultra-high-load Swamp Monster? What about a medium-load particle ball like the Flash Flood (?)?
SH
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I don't know any of the laods from todays stuff, but when I was on Storm's pro shop staff in 2001, I was told the La Nina was a 10% load, which was the highest to date...and probably since in my opinion.
Clint
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Clint Daley-Owner
Lets Go Bowling Daley
Inside Hunt Club Lanes
Salem, Ohio 44460
TRACK ADVISORY PRO SHOP STAFF
http://www.trackbowling.com/
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Also, Storms original particles in the La Nina and succesors were generally rumored to by much softer ( rubber or some similar compound )than the fiber glass and ceramic particles being used by other companies.
I was told they used rubber beads.
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I don't know any of the laods from todays stuff, but when I was on Storm's pro shop staff in 2001, I was told the La Nina was a 10% load, which was the highest to date...and probably since in my opinion.
This ball was the only particle ball made that had this high of a load. In fact this ball was grandfathered because the particle loading was reduced by the abc.