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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: onlybowling on June 18, 2013, 12:26:11 AM
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Does anyone know how aggressive microfiber is?
Can aggressive buffing with microfiber towel take surface from 3000 to 4000 grit?
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I wish I knew the answer to that question, but it must have some degree of abrasiveness because some time back, the PBA was considering disallowing the use of micro-fiber towels entirely during competition. That never came to be.
If you press firmly with a micro fiber towel while on a spinner, I'm sure you will change the surface, but how I cannot say.
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Charlest - thanks for you consideration.
I remembered a post detailing steps to surface a 900 global ball - final step was microfiber buff.
Obvious sheen is easily acquired with firm pressure. Would be nice to know where the grit goes.
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Obvious sheen is easily acquired with firm pressure. Would be nice to know where the grit goes.
Don't forget the other side of the coin: there are 49 different types of micro fiber towels, each with a different feel and a different purpose. Therefore a different abrasiveness. If someone tests 1 or 2, then someone else will ask, "But what about this one?". :)
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Something to test with my ball surface scanner this afternoon!!!!!!!!! :D
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Something to test with my ball surface scanner this afternoon!!!!!!!!! :D
Thank you!
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Obvious sheen is easily acquired with firm pressure. Would be nice to know where the grit goes.
Don't forget the other side of the coin: there are 49 different types of micro fiber towels, each with a different feel and a different purpose. Therefore a different abrasiveness. If someone tests 1 or 2, then someone else will ask, "But what about this one?". :)
49? Charlest, you wow even me with your knowledge sometimes.
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Obvious sheen is easily acquired with firm pressure. Would be nice to know where the grit goes.
Don't forget the other side of the coin: there are 49 different types of micro fiber towels, each with a different feel and a different purpose. Therefore a different abrasiveness. If someone tests 1 or 2, then someone else will ask, "But what about this one?". :)
49? Charlest, you wow even me with your knowledge sometimes.
Ah yes... the subtle art of online sarcasm...
FWIW -
http://www.900global.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77 (http://www.900global.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77)
The above link is to the 900 Global finishing process steps and it mentions nothing about microfiber towels specifically. I find it unlikely that they are using anything other than plain terry cloth towels...
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Hey, I take almost everything he says at face value. :P
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OK THE PURELY UNSCIENFIC RESULTS ARE IN :D :D :D :D :D
NIB Storm Manic. Out of box 4000 grit Abralon finish is the factory. Actual reading on a PAI Ball surface scanner.
Results estimated grit average 3794
Used a Storm Micro Fiber towel on a Innovative ball spinner high speed for 15 seconds heavy pressure
Results estimated grit average 4010
no noticeable change as far as I'm concerned
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OK THE PURELY UNSCIENFIC RESULTS ARE IN :D :D :D :D :D
NIB Storm Manic. Out of box 4000 grit Abralon finish is the factory. Actual reading on a PAI Ball surface scanner.
Results estimated grit average 3794
Used a Storm Micro Fiber towel on a Innovative ball spinner high speed for 15 seconds heavy pressure
Results estimated grit average 4010
no noticeable change as far as I'm concerned
I wonder how hot the synthetic micro fibers can get before they "melt"
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OK THE PURELY UNSCIENFIC RESULTS ARE IN :D :D :D :D :D
NIB Storm Manic. Out of box 4000 grit Abralon finish is the factory. Actual reading on a PAI Ball surface scanner.
Results estimated grit average 3794
Used a Storm Micro Fiber towel on a Innovative ball spinner high speed for 15 seconds heavy pressure
Results estimated grit average 4010
no noticeable change as far as I'm concerned
That is a minimal change, but it is a change.
Thank you again!
One other material you might want to test: Newspaper.
I was told by JustRico that it is an old PBA-truck trick to get an even finer grit level beyond 4000 grit: use newspaper to "sand" the ball after using a 4000 grit pad.
Newspaper is theoretically 20K grit. Of course, as one fellow on BBE.com learned, if you use it too firmly, it puts a shine on the ball. So it is definitely abrading the ball's surface.
My friend dampened it to use over the 4000 grit on his RG Wrecker.
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Thank you Raiderh20boy. -
not much difference - but if you need an in-between grit...that could be significant. 30 seconds X 6 sides. Might be just the thing.
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Just a personal opinion, I can't imagine a micro towel doing anything noticeable to a lower grit surface as much as the higher grits. I don't think a towel would affect to rougher surface enough to warrent to time it would take! :D
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Just a personal opinion, I can't imagine a micro towel doing anything noticeable to a lower grit surface as much as the higher grits. I don't think a towel would affect to rougher surface enough to warrent to time it would take! :D
Agreed.
These might have a place on 4000 grit dull balls to provide a slighty less over/under reaction than polish over 4000 grit.
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I don't believe a microfiber towel is capable of adjusting the surface in the amount of time someone uses a spinner. Any change would be so unnoticeable....it would take over 30 minutes to polish a bowling ball from 800 to 1000, and the result would just be a sheen finish.
Also, to speak to Charlest point, there are quite a few types of Microfiber. We have a super plush microfiber towel which has absolutely no ability to remove surface, it is just too soft.
-Kevin