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Title: question on fine sanding
Post by: fishbowler on December 26, 2004, 09:04:06 AM
how do you sand a ball to 1000 grit?  1200 grit, 1500 grit??

what materials do you use??  I cannot find any sandpaper in those grits.  a green scotch brite is around 800 so that is all I know .

thanks
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: Ernie McCracken on December 26, 2004, 05:07:43 PM
I find all of those grits in paper at Ace Home Hardware Store.  As far as they go in the Scotch pads, I've got no idea.
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: charlest on December 26, 2004, 05:12:43 PM
Here's 1000, 1200, 1500, 2000 grit silicon carbide
in 5 1/2" x 9" sizes:

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/eserv/eclipse.ecl?PROCID=WEBDISP.WOEB.MAIN&ID_1=4&ID_2=1015&ID_3=1023&CLEV=4&TRACKNO=J7211801521



Edited on 12/26/2004 6:15 PM
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: Re-Evolution on December 26, 2004, 05:31:45 PM
Your local auto body/paint supply store should have sand paper up to 3000 grit.
If you don't know of such a store in your area just go to one of the local body shops and ask them where they get their paper from.

3M Scotch Brite Nylon Pads:
7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - (1000) 1200-1500 grit
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - (600-800) 800 grit.
6448 - Green (?), called Light Duty Hand Pad - (600) 600 grit
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - (320-400) 320 grit
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - (280-320) 240 grit
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad (180-220) 150 grit
7440 - Tan pad, called Heavy Duty Hand Pad - (120-150) 60(?)
Green Scotch Brite is available EVERYWHERE. It's 600 grit.
Blue Scotch-Brite is considered to be about 1000 grit.
(The value inside the parentheses is directly from 3M.)
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: dirtbikebowler on December 26, 2004, 05:43:37 PM
just dont use sand paper on a particle ball(if you have one)
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: spookster on December 26, 2004, 06:12:22 PM
How come you can't use sand paper on particle balls?  (curious)
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: a_ak57 on December 26, 2004, 06:20:52 PM
quote:
How come you can't use sand paper on particle balls?  (curious)
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It will sand down the particles, in effect killing the particles on the ball.
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Yawn...
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: spookster on December 26, 2004, 06:28:30 PM
Thanks AK.

So, what is recomended to maintenance a particle ball?  Would 409 or simple green do the trick?
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: a_ak57 on December 26, 2004, 08:12:09 PM
Scotchbrite pads are fine.  But actual sandpaper is a no-no.
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Yawn...
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: Brickguy221 on December 27, 2004, 12:04:56 AM
You can also find all grits of sandpaper at Auto Zone.
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: charlest on December 27, 2004, 04:12:53 AM
quote:
quote:
How come you can't use sand paper on particle balls?  (curious)
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It will sand down the particles, in effect killing the particles on the ball.
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Yawn...


The actual problem is you never know what type of particles manufacturers actually use; some are soft, some are hard.

Brunswick now actually recommends sandpaper (So it theoretically should also be good on Morich's newer particle balls made by Brunswick, but not on their older ones made by Columbia.).

I've found sandpaper works fine with Legends balls because I assume the diamonds they use as their particles are harder than silicon carbide.

Right now I would use nylon pads on Columbia, Track, AMF, Circle and Storm particle balls.
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: a_ak57 on December 27, 2004, 09:13:23 AM
Yeah charlest you have a good point there, but i was just saying it is safer to just use scotchbrite instead of sandpaper if you are not sure if it's safe to use sandpaper.
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Yawn...
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: Ernie McCracken on December 27, 2004, 09:21:59 AM
I know where to find all the paper at but had no idea that using it was bad for partical balls!  Where do I find all of the Scotch brite pads at?
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: JohnP on December 27, 2004, 09:43:52 AM
Ernie -- Wild Octopus (see below) sells maroon, green, gray, and white Scotchbrite pads at a reasonable price (but watch the shipping cost).  Or you can look at Walmart, Home Depot, auto supply stores, hardware stores, etc.  In the department stores, you will usually find them in the kitchen supply dept. and they will usually have a sponge back.  --  JohnP

http://www.wildoctopusbowling.com/store.asp
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: spookster on December 27, 2004, 11:06:39 AM
Wow.  Very interesting.  I'll keep in mind no to use sand paper on particle balls if I am not sure.  

HOw about cleaning it?  Would it be save to use simple green or 409?
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Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: a_ak57 on December 27, 2004, 12:22:50 PM
Like charlest said, sandpaper isn't bad for all particle balls, but if you aren't sure and havent actually asked the company then use scotchbrite.

As for cleaning, i like to use Simple Green and water (mix it with water to make it last longer).  Maybe 2 parts water to 1 part simple green.
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Yawn...
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: charlest on December 27, 2004, 12:38:45 PM
quote:
Wow.  Very interesting.  I'll keep in mind no to use sand paper on particle balls if I am not sure.  

HOw about cleaning it?  Would it be save to use simple green or 409?
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Use common sense. Anything that is not on the unapproved list or anything that looks or smells toxic to you is bad for the the ball AND YOU!

I've come to like 409 with water or alcohol, but prefer bowling ball-specific cleaners.
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: charlest on December 27, 2004, 12:41:24 PM
NOTA BENE:

Almost all of this should be in Storm Track's ballreviews FAQ.
He went to a HUGE amount of trouble to compile and organize all that information. Let's make good use of it.

See http://home.mchsi.com/~s-cross-7-28-71/FAQ.htm
Title: Re: question on fine sanding
Post by: spookster on December 27, 2004, 05:18:12 PM
Hey Charlest,

Awesome link...  Thanks...

Any other good links?
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