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thirtyclean

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Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« on: January 30, 2014, 09:48:38 AM »
Question,
Should a ball be resurfaced a bit, before putting it into a Tidal Wave machine ? Would that open up the pores in the ball more, allowing more oil to be removed from the ball. I guess it would also be based on the # of games and general shape of the ball, just wondering if someone here has it done, and would it be advantageous to resurface first.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 09:53:57 AM »
I always take mine to 500 before i de oil
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2014, 11:34:51 AM »
I am not sure if sanding the ball before de-oiling will provide any significant benefit when compared with not sanding. 

The reason most sand the ball before is because the de-oiling is only one step in the process of ball regeneration (ultimately resurfacing also).  I think at one time I felt sanding the ball helped in the overall oil removing but after numerous cleanings without resurfacing I can attest in being able to get as good of a result without sanding first.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 11:54:27 AM »
If the ball doesn't need resurfacing, I don't sand it before de-oiling.

The oil got into the ball just fine, so it should be able to get out just as well.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 01:54:06 PM »
I think people take the surface to a lower grit because it opens the pores of the ball and could possibly allow the oil out in higher quantities. I haven't done any research of if there are studies on this or not, but water pours out of a bucket faster than a bottle.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 02:06:10 PM »
Quote from: lifted rillo on January 30, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
I think people take the surface to a lower grit because it opens the pores of the ball and could possibly allow the oil out in higher quantities. I haven't done any research of if there are studies on this or not, but water pours out of a bucket faster than a bottle.

Well, wouldn't the length of time the ball is in account for this?  Sure, it will likely come out faster with the pores opened up (hell, my stuff when re-surfaced and de-oiled) goes in with a TON of surface BUT, if it didn't, it would SEEM a longer bake would draw out the same amount.  Eventually the ball will stop bleeding oil but I don't see the ball just not giving some up due to a fine surface. 

Like Milo said, it got in so it should be able to get out, regardless of surface during the extraction.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2014, 02:12:54 PM »
Quote from: Good Times Good Times on January 30, 2014, 02:06:10 PM
Quote from: lifted rillo on January 30, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
I think people take the surface to a lower grit because it opens the pores of the ball and could possibly allow the oil out in higher quantities. I haven't done any research of if there are studies on this or not, but water pours out of a bucket faster than a bottle.

Well, wouldn't the length of time the ball is in account for this?  Sure, it will likely come out faster with the pores opened up (hell, my stuff when re-surfaced and de-oiled) goes in with a TON of surface BUT, if it didn't, it would SEEM a longer bake would draw out the same amount.  Eventually the ball will stop bleeding oil but I don't see the ball just not giving some up due to a fine surface. 

Like Milo said, it got in so it should be able to get out, regardless of surface during the extraction.

Time is the only difference I could think of. No argument from me. If I need a deep cleaning, I normally need a full resurface as well. Shouldn't make any difference except for the time spent in the Tidal Wave/Revivor/Hot Water bath.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2014, 02:52:01 PM »
Maybe someone can explain to me how "pores" are opened up after resurfacing.  The coverstock is pretty hard and the only difference between 4000 and 500 is the peaks and valleys on the surface of the coverstock.  The "pores" or voids in the molecular structure don't miraculously become bigger just because someone took the top layer off.

If I am wrong, please help me out.
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Re: Resurfacing before putting in Tidal Wave
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2014, 07:09:28 PM »
Mo reccomends it and I think Brunswick does as well. Ask Mo on bowlingchat and he will reply. Or if you'd rather not resurface the ball.....don't. 
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