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jjweb

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Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« on: August 07, 2007, 03:32:21 AM »
What's the difference? Or am I confused, and the Ebonite stuff is closer to the Brunswick High Gloss?

Thanks
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J_Mac

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 11:37:36 AM »
Brunswick High Gloss is what you should compare to Ebonite FF...
Rough Buff is a compound finish, but if you use too much or use it for too long on a spinner the ball will look like it was polished.
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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 11:42:09 AM »
So the Rough Buff is like a matte finish?
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J_Mac

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 11:46:57 AM »
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So the Rough Buff is like a matte finish?


Yes, Ric Hamlin has stated that the OOB Rough Buff finish that comes from the factory is like 2000 abralon.
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jjweb

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 11:47:31 AM »
Ok, thank you very much!
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shelley

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 11:54:00 AM »
RB is a compound finish.  In appearance, it's like a ball that's got a high gloss polish (like Brunswick's HG or Ebonite's FF), then very lightly sanded.  The sanding just takes a little of the shine off without actually removing the polish.

It's comparable to a 2000-grit sanding in appearance.  Almost shiny but not quite.

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2007, 12:34:04 PM »
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RB is a compound finish.  In appearance, it's like a ball that's got a high gloss polish (like Brunswick's HG or Ebonite's FF), then very lightly sanded.  The sanding just takes a little of the shine off without actually removing the polish.

It's comparable to a 2000-grit sanding in appearance.  Almost shiny but not quite.

SH


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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2007, 12:36:06 PM »
The main reason I was asking is because I was ordering a spinner.

I went ahead and bought both the Brunswick High Gloss and Rough Buff.

Thanks again!
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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 12:38:38 PM »
Ebonites Matte Finish is around 1200 grit..fyi..
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J_Mac

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2007, 12:47:55 PM »
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Ebonites Matte Finish is around 1200 grit..fyi..


Looks like the Matte Finish is gone...

 
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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2007, 12:49:35 PM »
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Gee, how many people have me on ignore anyhow?


Just not paying attention.

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2007, 01:12:34 PM »
J_Mac, Buddies has it listed as being discontinued, that's how I found out.
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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2007, 09:44:34 PM »
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So the Rough Buff is like a matte finish?


Yes, Ric Hamlin has stated that the OOB Rough Buff finish that comes from the factory is like 2000 abralon.
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Sorry. I'd like to make addition to prevent any possibility of misintepreting j_mac's statement

All Brunswick balls that are finished with Rough Buff are first sanded to 220 grit; then RB is applied. However, and this is very important, if you sand the ball to 320 or 400 or 600 or any higher grit and then apply RB, the final finish will be much smoother than that 2000 grit approximation. And the ball will skid much further and hook less at the backend, thus handling less oil.

RB is a rubbing compound; as such it has abrasives in it.It will make whatever base upon which it is applied much finer and smoother (higher grit number).

You can't just use it on any surface and get the equivalent of 2000 grit matte finish. There is no magic in RB. The way you apply it PLUS what you apply it to both go into determining what the finish is.

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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2007, 09:46:52 PM »
Jeff,
 To you have all this stuff written down ... or do you know it all "off the top of your head" ??? OMG, Man !!!
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Re: Rough Buff vs Ebonite Factory Finish
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2007, 10:15:34 PM »
C'mon Jeff... I was making a direct comparison to the OOB Rough Buff finish that is the standard procedure from the factory.  I wasn't comparing any other underlying initial grit to the 2000 abralon finish.

Figured I was pretty clear with my statement.
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