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Larry318

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royal compound
« on: December 04, 2014, 10:41:31 PM »
quick question,  is the Brunswick royal compound same as ebonite factory polish?  Thanks for any response.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 11:10:06 PM »
No
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charlest

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Re: royal compound
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 11:14:04 PM »
As far as I can tell, it's another name for what Brunswick used to call Rough Buff. They have said it contains a slight amount of something else, but all I see is ROugh Buff.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 11:58:01 PM »
Royal Shine would be closer to Ebonites factory finish than compound
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 09:02:56 AM »
I agree that Royal compound is basically the same as Ruff Buff.

As for Royal Shine I've used it quite a bit now.

I'm not saying it's exactly the same, but it seems more closer to the old (A.P.P/Track/Ebonite) Reaction Plus than to Factory Finish.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2014, 09:26:02 AM »
Can anyone give me a hands on comparison between Royal Compound and Storm Step 2??
 
I guess what I'm really asking is if Step 2 can be use as a replacement for Royal Compound and get close enough results.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2014, 11:36:22 AM »
Since Brunswick's Rough Buff could be used in place of Storms #2.

Royal compound should be a good substitute for Storms #2 also
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2014, 11:55:38 AM »
I have a quart bottle of Step 2 I just bought for refinishing my IQ Tour Pearl and Fusion. You can't buy the product in smaller quantities.  :o 
 
I have a chance to pick up a Radical Yeti Uncaged on the cheap, and it's finished with Royal Compound. I'm just going by product descriptions, but Royal Compound says it's 2500 grit, while Step 2 says 320/1500. On the surface, it's seems like Step 2 is a more aggressive compound. It almost looks like I'd have to progress to Step 3 (1500/2500) if I wanted to replicate Royal Compound results within the Storm family.   
 
Ultimately, I could just buy the 6oz bottle of Royal Compound, but I'm curious about the true equivalencies.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2014, 12:14:06 PM »
Quote from: Steven on December 06, 2014, 11:55:38 AM
I have a quart bottle of Step 2 I just bought for refinishing my IQ Tour Pearl and Fusion. You can't buy the product in smaller quantities.  :o 
 
I have a chance to pick up a Radical Yeti Uncaged on the cheap, and it's finished with Royal Compound. I'm just going by product descriptions, but Royal Compound says it's 2500 grit, while Step 2 says 320/1500. On the surface, it's seems like Step 2 is a more aggressive compound. It almost looks like I'd have to progress to Step 3 (1500/2500) if I wanted to replicate Royal Compound results within the Storm family.   
 
Ultimately, I could just buy the 6oz bottle of Royal Compound, but I'm curious about the true equivalencies.

"Steven",

Please remember that no compound automatically puts an #### grit finish on a ball. I'm not sure why manufacturers put a grit number on a compound. Maybe that's the grit of the abrasive in the compound - I just don't know. I do know that the resultant finish depends on so many human factors, no one can possibly predict the final outcome precisely. However, if you do each step the same way, in general, you can get close to the same results, each time,  for you and that ball.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 12:26:40 PM »
"Charlest"  :) 
 
I do understand all the variables that go into applying compounds. It's one of the reasons that everything else being equal, I'll go with exclusively using Abralon/Siiair because I'm more confident in closely replicating results. I'm a simple guy and don't like unnecessary complications.  ;)
   
On the surface, it looks like you can achieve a higher grit/polished finish with Royal Compound than with Step 2. However, if you've used both products and feel they're very close in finishing potentials, I'll go with that. Thanks.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 12:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Steven on December 06, 2014, 12:26:40 PM
"Charlest"  :) 
 
I do understand all the variables that go into applying compounds. It's one of the reasons that everything else being equal, I'll go with exclusively using Abralon/Siiair because I'm more confident in closely replicating results. I'm a simple guy and don't like unnecessary complications.  ;)
   
On the surface, it looks like you can achieve a higher grit/polished finish with Royal Compound than with Step 2. However, if you've used both products and feel they're very close in finishing potentials, I'll go with that. Thanks.

I was worried when you started quoting grits. They're probably close; only experience via testing will truly let you know what you need. Often there are many ways to get to any OOB finish.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2014, 08:03:04 PM »
Is there a list somewhere of which compounds are similar to each other?

Royal compound is equal to Storm's Step 2 which are equal to ...kind of thing.

I understand how we apply factors in, but just so maybe we don't have to buy a bunch of different products and to do the same thing.

Hope that makes sense.

I've been trying to help out my son's HS teammates and I don't want to have to try to find all these different things when trying to get things back to factory.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2014, 08:05:42 PM by psycaz »
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2014, 10:19:31 PM »
You can find a list of some of them with grit ratings here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/downloads/bowling_grit_chart_v2.pdf
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2014, 01:47:02 PM »
Quote from: MI 2 AZ on December 06, 2014, 10:19:31 PM
You can find a list of some of them with grit ratings here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/downloads/bowling_grit_chart_v2.pdf

Thanks. That'll help a bunch.
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Re: royal compound
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2014, 05:18:35 PM »
I have tried royal conpound once on my 811 c/t. I think I put on top of 4000 grit. The ball started earlier than I wanted and hit too soft for my liking. Granted, this is on old worn wood lanes. I changed the grit to 3000-4000 sanded, and the ball seems to react better. I use the royal polish or whatever it is on my primal rage all the time and I love it. For me, there is a huge difference in the polish and compound
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