Author Topic: Sanding /polishing technique question (Read 11907 times)

Artimust · « **on:** August 24, 2014, 02:21:59 PM »

I have a ball spinner and still relatively new to doing my own balls and have a question. I always do 6 sides of the ball, for every grit. So if I do 360,500,1000...i got 6 sides for each one. Is this correct or overkill?

Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2014, 03:41:50 PM »

Quote from: Artimust on August 24, 2014, 02:21:59 PM

I have a ball spinner and still relatively new to doing my own balls and have a question. I always do 6 sides of the ball, for every grit. So if I do 360,500,1000...i got 6 sides for each one. Is this correct or overkill?

Doing all 6 sides for every grit is way over kill.

Most sanding steps just do 4 sides. (Though if you turn ball the right ways after each step you'll do the sixth side)

something to help get the bowlers grit chart here

http://home.earthlink.net/%7Elitefrozen/downloads/bowling_grit_chart_v2.pdf

Lots of good info.

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2014, 05:04:04 PM »

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Surface_Modification

Scroll down to where it talks about 4 sides and 6 sides. I always do 6 sides because I have the time and I am worth it lol

Artimust · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2014, 08:40:59 PM »

Do you do 6 sides for very grit? Like if you start at 360 and take it up to 2000, do you keep doing all 6 for each grit?

I read about doing all 6, so that's what I been doing. Then I was watching more videos and I saw the guy (Innovative) and another one with Phil Cardinale, doing 2 sides then changing grit. He mentioned something about the cross grains.

scotts33 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2014, 08:56:00 PM »

There sure can't be many peaks and valleys after I read what the majority of bowlers do with spinners at a high rpm with successive grits.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/8/8e/From_Possum_to_Performance.pdf

tuckinfenpin · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2014, 09:27:44 PM »

It was my understanding that cross graining a ball will make it pick up earlier. I believe this is more beneficial when you want to have a rougher surface under polish. Moving up on the grts like described should delay the reaction.

Please someone correct me if I am totally off.

Artimust · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2014, 01:34:09 AM »

Quote from: scotts33 on August 24, 2014, 08:56:00 PM

There sure can't be many peaks and valleys after I read what the majority of bowlers do with spinners at a high rpm with successive grits.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/8/8e/From_Possum_to_Performance.pdf

Good information and makes a ton of sense! I think I need to re-do my balls.

Artimust · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2014, 07:00:23 PM »

I just did an 500/2000 surface on a Versa-Max and will try it out tomorrow. Went one side with 500, flipped it over and did the other side. Turned it sideways and hit it 2000, turned it over and finished it. This is the technique that the INNOVATIVE uses in their How-To videos. Much, much, much faster and easier than hitting all 6 sides for each grit. Saves me money on pads, cleaners, and polishes too, and less wear and tear on the spinner since its not running as long. Now the test is tomorrow to see if this makes a difference or not on the lanes.
Do you guys use this technique as well? Did you try it and didn't like it and did something else?

cheech · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2014, 07:20:25 PM »

i dont do successive grit ever since learning about skip grit technique. when doing a full resurface i do 4 sides at 500 then 6 at the finishing grit. if im in a hurry ill just 2 at 500 but stil l6 at the finish grit

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 27, 2014, 08:20:35 PM »

Quote from: Artimust on August 24, 2014, 08:40:59 PM

Do you do 6 sides for very grit? Like if you start at 360 and take it up to 2000, do you keep doing all 6 for each grit?

I read about doing all 6, so that's what I been doing. Then I was watching more videos and I saw the guy (Innovative) and another one with Phil Cardinale, doing 2 sides then changing grit. He mentioned something about the cross grains.

I never start at 360 or 500 and go all the way up. Usually I skip grits going 360/1000 or 500/1000, or 500/2000, or 500/1000/newspaper or 500/2000/newspaper.

If I was really wanting a ball to be super clean I would start at 360 or 500 and work all the way up to newspaper.

Im not big on the idea of doing 2 sides at one grit and 6 sides at another, or 4 sides and then 3 and then 1 and then 5 and then 1/4s lol. I'm not big on the mix match idea. Just me personally. I like to keep it simple and uniform as possible.

lilpossum1 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2014, 11:25:49 PM »

What does the newspaper do?

scotts33 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 27, 2014, 11:48:37 PM »

Do ball manufacturers use spinners to manufacture/surface balls?

charlest · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2014, 05:12:19 AM »

Quote from: lilpossum1 on August 27, 2014, 11:25:49 PM

What does the newspaper do?

It takes the surface much finer. According to JustRico, it's the equivalent of 20,000 grit. Supposedly it's an old trick used/developed in the PBA truck years ago. You can apply it to balls finished to 2000 - 4000 grit with Abralon/Siaair/etc.; it will eventually put a shine on the balls but, in theory, it's not as over/under as polish. Personally I fold a piece of newspaper into about a 4"x5" piece, squirt the ball and the paper with water and press, on the spinner.

Aloarjr810 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2014, 08:27:41 AM »

Quote from: scotts33 on August 27, 2014, 11:48:37 PM

Do ball manufacturers use spinners to manufacture/surface balls?

No, even the haus machine or the storm surface factory isn't the same.

Theres a couple of videos on youtube showing how they do it.

that's why you can't reproduce a OOB exactly.

bowlersev · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2014, 07:26:12 AM »

Quote from: Artimust on August 27, 2014, 07:00:23 PM

I just did an 500/2000 surface on a Versa-Max and will try it out tomorrow. Went one side with 500, flipped it over and did the other side. Turned it sideways and hit it 2000, turned it over and finished it. This is the technique that the INNOVATIVE uses in their How-To videos. Much, much, much faster and easier than hitting all 6 sides for each grit. Saves me money on pads, cleaners, and polishes too, and less wear and tear on the spinner since its not running as long. Now the test is tomorrow to see if this makes a difference or not on the lanes.
Do you guys use this technique as well? Did you try it and didn't like it and did something else?

How did it go? Was going to try it this way curious as to the results

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