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voidkid89

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scotch brite pad info needed also
« on: September 20, 2003, 08:33:25 AM »
what coler pad would add more hook??? less??? what do the grits mean. thanks to all who reply.
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2003, 11:51:41 PM »
easiest way to tell you is to just say that the lower the grit, the sooner the ball is going to hook.  the higher the grit the later it will hook.  its kinda like a polished surface vs. a sanded surface.  the sanded is going to hook a lot earlier and have more of a smooth turn.  the polished will go longer and have more of an angular turn.  not trying to take over your post but does anyone have a list of all the different pads and what their grits are??
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2003, 12:01:19 AM »
I am busy trying to find a post that was about what the term grit meant, but in the meantime, here is something that was posted by Charlest:

 
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3M Scotch Brite:

7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - 1200-1500 grit
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - 1000 grit.
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - 320 grit
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - 240 grit
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad - 150 grit
Green Scotch Brite is available EVERYWHERE. It's 600 grit.

 

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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2003, 12:17:27 AM »
Ok, I couldnt find the post I was looking for so I am going to go from memory (and that's not good news).  

When we refer to the term 'grit' we are talking about a standard that is used to grade the coarseness of sandpaper (or scotchbrite in this case).  I believe I remember that it was explained that the 'grit' numbers mean the number of sandpaper particles that would pass through a measurement opening for a certain size (sorry I am so vague but I dont remember the exact sizes).  So, the larger particles would only pass a smaller amount in that area, hence the coarser numbers are lower (lets say 100 = 100 particles in a square inch area) and since the smaller particles would allow a greater amount of particles in that same area, the larger numbers would equal a smoother cut (lets say 1000 = 1000 particles in a square inch area).  But, we are using an American standard when we use those numbers.  There is also a European standard and they use different numbers, so if voidkid89 is from Europe, our numbers might not mean anything to him.

Below are some of the topics that I found concerning scotchbrite so if you want to read the responses that go with them, you will have to set your Preferences to read back to the last year.

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=14552&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=17849&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=20380&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?CategoryID=5&ForumID=17&TopicID=22992&PageNum=2

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=28520&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=29029&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5

Hope this helps.


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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2003, 07:37:36 AM »
MI 2 AZ,

Thank you; it's nice to be remembered in my failing old age.
You might want to add this bit of flotsam to the jetsam:

"Blue Scotch-Brite is considered to be about 800 grit."

This is a new one that's become generally available in the last 6-8 months.
I don't have a 3M stick number for it. It's a nice bright blue, however and quite unmistakeable.

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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2003, 09:32:24 AM »
how do you use the pads to change the grit???just scrub the ball with them???
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2003, 09:44:57 AM »
Try www.jayhawkbowling.com  and look under spinners, then resurfacing tips.
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2003, 11:00:05 AM »
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how do you use the pads to change the grit???just scrub the ball with them???
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You really need a spinner to do anything approximating a decent job. By hand there's not much you can do except "crack the cover/shell".
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2003, 12:00:38 PM »
so I don't have a spinner, and it can damage the ball if i do it by hand???
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2003, 12:50:14 PM »
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so I don't have a spinner, and it can damage the ball if i do it by hand???
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You can damage it in the sense that it's almost impossible to do what might be called a good or even acceptable job by hand. It can't be truly even. Plus it can take a long time to do even an adjustment.

You will only truly be able to tell what a difference a spinner makes once you have one or access to one and do an adjustment with the spinner, versus having done one by hand. Once you do, you will wonder whatever were you thinking to have even tried to modify a cover with out a spinner; to be very polite about it, you will feel very silly, at the least.

At $150-200, if you're serious about bowling and buy 3-4 balls per year, it is equal to the cost of one good ball and will last many years.
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2003, 01:34:23 PM »
thank you charlest and all the others now I'll just use my pro shop guys spinner for a while(I'm 14) until I have more than 2-3 balls
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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2003, 04:40:26 PM »
A good source for Scotchbrite pads is WildOctopusBowling.com (www.wildoctopusbowling.com/product.asp?0=206&1=223&3=815). The pads are listed under cleaners and polishes. They supply four different color/grit pads at a very reasonable price (shipping will cost almost as much as the pads) and got my order to me in about two days. -- JohnP
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charlest

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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2003, 05:09:08 PM »
FWIW I got mine from Jamestown Distributing (Boat Supplies). I started before Wild Octopus and other carried them. They're a little cheaper at 91 - 95 cents each and cheaper still in blocks of 20, vs Wild Octopus's $1.30 - $1.50 each. (Make no mistake; I still think  Wild Octopus is a great place for bowling supplies!)

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/store/entries/index_cleaning.html?L+scstore+mkyr9657ffb361b3+1093645339


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Re: scotch brite pad info needed also
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2003, 08:57:07 PM »
charlest -- Thanks for the link, I've bookmarked it for the next time I need pads.  Do you know of a site that supplies a greater variety of pads?  I have the four that WildOctopus handles - maroon, green, lt grey, and white - but would like to have the other grits they come in.  --  JohnP
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2003, 10:22:57 PM »
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charlest -- Thanks for the link, I've bookmarked it for the next time I need pads.  Do you know of a site that supplies a greater variety of pads?  I have the four that WildOctopus handles - maroon, green, lt grey, and white - but would like to have the other grits they come in.  --  JohnP


John,

The Blue is the only other one I'd bother to try to get. I found mine in a super-market store in the sponge and cleaners section. Haven't yet found it on a website.

FYI Jamestown doesn't carry the green, but you can't go into any store, hardware, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc., without tripping over a green nylon pad.

Regarding others: I think you need to go to specialty stores to get them, unless a paint store might carry the very low grit dark grey pads, like the 180 grit.

For bowling, I've found the
Maroon: 320-400
Green: 600
Blue: 800
Grey: 1000
White: 1200-1500

to cover just about every base.
Personally, I prefer sandpaper for 1200, 1500 and 2000 grit or liquid sandpapers like Ebonite's Matte Finish.
The White nylon one hardly "sands" a ball at all. I have to press awfully hard to get any "sanding" done with a white one. I have just abot given up on using white ones.
And, unless you're re-surfacing a ball, I think you rarely need a rougher grit than the 320 - maroon.
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