Author Topic: Simple Green? (Read 7497 times)

Carlos Colon · « **on:** March 10, 2009, 05:59:23 AM »

Does this leave the ball with a tacky feel like some of the ball specific cleaners?

bowlerdawg · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:41:05 PM »

the simple green leaves a residue, and Windex is ammonia based, and evaporates quickly, and it also cleans the off the residue.

This is what I do immediately when I'm done bowling.

I just spray it on, clean it off, and wipe it off.

I use rejuvenator from ultimate , and let it soak before I clean it on the spinner.
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Steven · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2009, 11:57:43 AM »

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Does this (Simple Green) leave the ball with a tacky feel like some of the ball specific cleaners?

NO.

Simple Green does not clean as thoroughly or leave as much of a tacky finish as some of the stronger ball specific cleaners (Clean & Dull, HookIt, etc.). I understand the desire to save money, but understand the trade offs.

Simple Green and F409 are adequate, and if you're happy with that, then cool. It just depends on how far you want to take cleaning and perhaps prolonging the life of your equipment.

Steven · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2009, 07:48:45 PM »

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It doesn't? Why? Because you say so?

Now, now. Settle down.

Do comparative testing of Clean & Dull and HookIt against Simple Green. The results in favor of C&D and HookIt are easy to see.

charlest · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2009, 08:54:29 PM »

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It doesn't? Why? Because you say so?

Edited on 4/1/2009 7:33 PM

No, because experience shows it leaves a residue that must be removed with a solvent like alcohol.
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charlest · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:58:16 PM »

Everyone is wrong but you??

Fascinating attitude!
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Steven · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:52:13 AM »

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Unreal! Because in your guys experience you might have done something wrong, or your water is a different hardness, or you didn't use a strong enough alcohol and you didn't get good results that is enough to write it off? I guess your experiences are different than mine. Have never had a residue left on my ball. Maybe straight simple green would.

CRD: If you read any of charlest's dozens of posts on coverstock maintenance, you'd quickly know he's as much a resident expert on the subject as anyone here. And he's had the concurrence of many respected proshop operators who regularly contribute to the board. It's scary, but he researches and thinks about cover maintenance more than you think about Walleye fishing.

The fact is that neither of us has done 'something wrong'. When you've conducting repeated cleaning tests over dozens of different balls (Solid Resin, Particle, Pearl Resin, Pearl/Particle, Urethane, Pearl Urethane, polished, sanded, etc.) using multiple cleaners, you're able to conclude what works and what doesn't.

Maybe you can share your comparative testing using C&D and Hook-It to tell us why you believe they don't perform a more through cleaning? As part of that sharing, please describe the techniques you used in the cleaning so we can tell if you've done 'something wrong'.

« **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2009, 03:00:38 PM »

I'm not sure why some get the less desireable results with it. Maybe too strong/too weak a mixture? Maybe not giving it enough time to break down the oil? Maybe the slippery "residue" is oil coming from the cover? Have you ever rested your hand on the ball and brought oil back up to the surface?

If the minimal heat from my hand can bring the oil up, then why couldn't creating friction (heat) by wiping the cover with a towel bring oil to the surface? Could this be the residue that people are feeling? I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud here.

I have used it for years because it gets the surface tacky clean. If it will break down motor oil from my driveway, it should be strong enough to break down a little lane oil from the surface of a ball if given time. I don't profess to be an expert, just know that it has worked for me and have had reps from 2 different ball companies endorse it's use. And no, these reps will not be identified, because they were speaking "off the record" because their employer also sells bowling ball cleaner.

Each of us may experience different results, but if it works well for you then don't be afraid to use it. If your results are less than stellar then by all means feel free to buy whatever works for you.

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Steven · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2009, 09:58:50 AM »

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I cannot understand why people make bowling ball maintenance such a complicated and sometimes expensive proposition.

CRD: I said earlier that "Simple Green and F409 are adequate, and if you're happy with that, then cool." Clay, for his purposes apparently has a home grown brew that he's happy with, and that's cool. Your the self proclaimed "Cool Rockin Daddy", so if you do have any real reading comprehension, you should understand the semantics around the word 'cool'.

As usual, you bring a narrow and limited view to the subject. The bigger deal here is that you haven't done any comparative testing, so you really don't know what's most effective and what's not when it comes to cleaning products. Maybe the differences are minor, but the fact is that you don't know. For most people, knowledge is gold for you, it's the pleasure of taking delight in ignorance.

BTW, the process of comparative testing is not 'complicated'. It's what naturally curious people do to find answers. There are lots of cleaners out there, including liquid abrasives that if used correctly, not only clean but keep aggressive sanded covers in closer to NIB condition. I find it interesting that you'll pay a kid $3.00 to hit your ball with abralon (hopefully a relatively new pad), but won't spend a few bucks to understand your cleaning options. Incredible.

« **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:08:12 AM »

It really doesn't need to be an adversarial situation here.

Like I said, if it doesn't work under YOUR conditions then it would be wise to try something else. Same to those to have had good results.

It may be impossible to exactly duplicate anyone's "testing environment" without be there side by side, with two identical bowling balls, etc.

I happen to respect the opinions of many who post here, including those who haven't had any luck with the Simple Green product.

To quote an old Dave Mason song, "There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys, there's only you and me and we just disagree..." It's okay to disagree on this subject and still be respectful or cordial.

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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

Edited on 4/3/2009 10:08 AM

Steven · « **Reply #25 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:53:22 AM »

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Clay, for his purposes apparently has a home grown brew that he's happy with, and that's cool.

Clay: I'm sorry if you took any offense in my reference to you above. None was intended. You're a contributing proshop operator and I'm guessing by your overall responses that you've put a lot of thought into your cleaning and maintenance methods. So if you have what you consider to be an adequate home brew, that's good information.

As far as CRD, I'll reserve the right to address him as appropriate. Thanks.

But back to the original question:

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Does this (Simple Green) leave the ball with a tacky feel like some of the ball specific cleaners?

If you've used C&D (I'm assuming you have), do you believe Simple Green leaves an equivalent amount of tack? In my experience, C&D, as well as Valentino's Remedy RX, leave the ball much tackier -- almost sticky. Just curious about your thoughts.

Edited on 4/3/2009 10:59 AM

« **Reply #26 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:59:30 AM »

No offense taken, Steven. I just thought I'd reply as I did so there'd be no mistaking my stance. If it works, great, but if it doesn't work for you then great.

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