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J_Mac

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Soaking... is this normal for you?
« on: January 04, 2007, 03:20:56 PM »
Just tossed my Absolute Inferno into some hot as I can get it tap water with some blue Dawn.  I usually do a good job of cleaning my equipment after I'm done with it for the night.

My question is this-
When using the above mixture, am I supposed to see an oil slick on the top of the water?  I never really see anything like this.  I'm not sure if it's just me, or if this is normal for Dawn dish detergent.

I normally take a burgundy pad or something about at aggressive grit wise to any ball I'm about to soak.
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J_Mac

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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 09:29:52 AM »
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 09:35:55 AM »
That oil you see on the surface of the water has been extracted from the ball.  When removing the ball from the water, you must be certain to immediately wipe the ball off to remove whatever oil has clung on from the surface of the water.  Personally, I never prep the surface when I place a ball in hot water.  If anything, I'll add some polish afterwards.
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 09:44:45 AM »
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That oil you see on the surface of the water has been extracted from the ball.  When removing the ball from the water, you must be certain to immediately wipe the ball off to remove whatever oil has clung on from the surface of the water.  Personally, I never prep the surface when I place a ball in hot water.  If anything, I'll add some polish afterwards.
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I've never seen any oil on the surface of my water though...
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 09:46:57 AM »
I thought the purpose of the Dawn was to absorb the oil?  I only use hot water when I soak and I do see oil.
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 09:55:18 AM »
How hot of water do you use? Hot as in tap hot or hot as in boiling?
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 09:57:58 AM »
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How hot of water do you use? Hot as in tap hot or hot as in boiling?
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Tap hot... I'll have a number shortly.

120ºF
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Ragnar

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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 10:00:06 AM »
Like J Mac, tap hot (about 150?).  Boiling will/can cause cracks.  You should avoid any sudden large temp changes w/ bowling balls - they don't react well to such.
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2007, 10:08:29 AM »
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My water heater is set at 165*
Is that high/low?
Didn't want to hijack the thread, but it seems to be heading in that direction.
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That's quite high, I hope you don't have children.
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2007, 10:27:22 AM »
BigBoomer, leave it to intellect to fix a problem. Oil is lighter than water and your trickle theory is very smart.

165 degrees?  OUCH!

Mine's at 145 and leaves the hands pretty red after a couple of dips in the water.
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2007, 10:45:24 AM »
The Dawn makes the oil soluble, that's why you don't see any sheen.  It acts on lane oil just like it does on cooking oils.  --  JohnP
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 11:41:35 AM »
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The Dawn makes the oil soluble, that's why you don't see any sheen.  It acts on lane oil just like it does on cooking oils.  --  JohnP


That's what I thought.  

I did a teammate's Ultimate Inferno and soaked it a couple times.  Afterwards I put it on my balcony in the sun to dry it out a little and there was still a little oil in the track area, but not that much.  He was pretty happy with the end result.

Even with his oil soaked ball I didn't see any oil slicks...
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 12:34:20 PM »
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I thought the purpose of the Dawn was to absorb the oil?  I only use hot water when I soak and I do see oil.
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Just like household grease, Dawn breaks up the oil chemically, as far.
 as I know. The purpose of the hot water is to bring the oil to the surface; the dawn helps prevent it from being re-absorbed by breaking it up. Ball should not sit in luke warm water and should be wiped off immediately
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 12:43:58 PM »
When I do this I soak in water about 15 minutes, remove ball, wipe off, empty bucket, refill and soak another 15 minutes.  I'll repeat the process four or five times.  So now I use the dishwasher (no heat, thank you).  Takes far less time.
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Re: Soaking... is this normal for you?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 12:54:03 PM »
Technically, Dawn (and most other soaps in general) are what is known as surfactants.  They are molecules having one end hydrophilic (attracted to water) and the other end hydrophobic (repelled from water, but attracted to compounds such as oils).  Basically they disperse oil (which would normally float on top of the water), throughout the water... probably why you are not seeing anything on top of the water.  If you were to use just plain hot water, it probably would be there.

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