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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: J_Mac on January 04, 2007, 03:20:56 PM
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Just tossed my Absolute Inferno into some hot as I can get it tap water with some blue Dawn. I usually do a good job of cleaning my equipment after I'm done with it for the night.
My question is this-
When using the above mixture, am I supposed to see an oil slick on the top of the water? I never really see anything like this. I'm not sure if it's just me, or if this is normal for Dawn dish detergent.
I normally take a burgundy pad or something about at aggressive grit wise to any ball I'm about to soak.
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That oil you see on the surface of the water has been extracted from the ball. When removing the ball from the water, you must be certain to immediately wipe the ball off to remove whatever oil has clung on from the surface of the water. Personally, I never prep the surface when I place a ball in hot water. If anything, I'll add some polish afterwards.
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That oil you see on the surface of the water has been extracted from the ball. When removing the ball from the water, you must be certain to immediately wipe the ball off to remove whatever oil has clung on from the surface of the water. Personally, I never prep the surface when I place a ball in hot water. If anything, I'll add some polish afterwards.
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I've never seen any oil on the surface of my water though...
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I thought the purpose of the Dawn was to absorb the oil? I only use hot water when I soak and I do see oil.
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How hot of water do you use? Hot as in tap hot or hot as in boiling?
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How hot of water do you use? Hot as in tap hot or hot as in boiling?
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Tap hot... I'll have a number shortly.
120ºF
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Edited on 1/5/2007 11:05 AM
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Like J Mac, tap hot (about 150?). Boiling will/can cause cracks. You should avoid any sudden large temp changes w/ bowling balls - they don't react well to such.
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My water heater is set at 165*
Is that high/low?
Didn't want to hijack the thread, but it seems to be heading in that direction.
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That's quite high, I hope you don't have children.
http://customer.honeywell.com/WaterControl/Cultures/en-US/Prevention/Burn+Chart/Default.htm
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Edited on 1/5/2007 11:11 AM
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BigBoomer, leave it to intellect to fix a problem. Oil is lighter than water and your trickle theory is very smart.
165 degrees? OUCH!
Mine's at 145 and leaves the hands pretty red after a couple of dips in the water.
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The Dawn makes the oil soluble, that's why you don't see any sheen. It acts on lane oil just like it does on cooking oils. -- JohnP
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The Dawn makes the oil soluble, that's why you don't see any sheen. It acts on lane oil just like it does on cooking oils. -- JohnP
That's what I thought.
I did a teammate's Ultimate Inferno and soaked it a couple times. Afterwards I put it on my balcony in the sun to dry it out a little and there was still a little oil in the track area, but not that much. He was pretty happy with the end result.
Even with his oil soaked ball I didn't see any oil slicks...
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"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Edited on 1/5/2007 12:42 PM
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I thought the purpose of the Dawn was to absorb the oil? I only use hot water when I soak and I do see oil.
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Just like household grease, Dawn breaks up the oil chemically, as far.
as I know. The purpose of the hot water is to bring the oil to the surface; the dawn helps prevent it from being re-absorbed by breaking it up. Ball should not sit in luke warm water and should be wiped off immediately
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When I do this I soak in water about 15 minutes, remove ball, wipe off, empty bucket, refill and soak another 15 minutes. I'll repeat the process four or five times. So now I use the dishwasher (no heat, thank you). Takes far less time.
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Technically, Dawn (and most other soaps in general) are what is known as surfactants. They are molecules having one end hydrophilic (attracted to water) and the other end hydrophobic (repelled from water, but attracted to compounds such as oils). Basically they disperse oil (which would normally float on top of the water), throughout the water... probably why you are not seeing anything on top of the water. If you were to use just plain hot water, it probably would be there.
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I bake mine instead...then I don't have to worry about drying out the water. Works great.
Put it on a baking pan at 150 -160 F and leave it in he oven for a half hour...the ball will have an oil slick on the surface...wipe it down with your favorite cleaner and your ready to go...
Do it every month or so and your ball will react like when it was out of the box.
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sorry... was I right? Somtimes my memory fails me... its been a few years.. LOL
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I bake mine instead...then I don't have to worry about drying out the water. Works great.
Put it on a baking pan at 150 -160 F and leave it in he oven for a half hour...the ball will have an oil slick on the surface...wipe it down with your favorite cleaner and your ready to go...
Do it every month or so and your ball will react like when it was out of the box.
It's great that you've had success with your cleaning methods. However, Big B does not promote the use of intense, dry heaty for oil extraction on it's coverstocks. The only way that has changed is if the Octane series can be baked clean. Of that fact, I'm uncertain.
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Old, but may be worth repeating.
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Mark Martin's recipe for "baked" Bowling Ball
This past Saturday I took the ball to Bud Mulholland of Bud's Pro Shop to have it resurfaced. The ball had various gouges and nicks that had happened over its lifetime and Bud would take care of these.
On Monday I picked up the ball from Bud and told him of my dilemma of the ball not hooking any longer. He then described a procedure I could do myself to remedy the situation. He stated that the reactive resin ball "eats" the oil off of the lane and the lane oil soaks into the ball. After many trips down the oily lane the ball quits reacting. He took my ball in the back of his shop and put it under a heat lamp and in less than 10 seconds the oil began oozing out.
Bud suggested that I "bake" the ball. He described this process as being quite simple using a standard household oven and a cookie sheet. Balancing the ball on its thumbhole on the cookie sheet and putting it in an oven at 150 degrees for 10-12 minutes at a time would bleed all of the oil out of the ball. After each cycle remove the ball from the oven and wipe it off and repeat the process until no more oil emerged from the ball.
I had heard of this before and it seemed very easy and foolproof. Even I, as the master chef, could accomplish this feat and in return have a new bowling ball.
Later that afternoon at the GDBA'S office I decided to "bake" the ball, since Monday night was my bowling night and it would be nice to have my Red Alert back the way it used to be.
I proceeded to turn the oven on and place the ball into it as the recipe called for. Approximately five minutes later when I went to check on it, I got the surprise of my life. Upon opening the oven door my Red Alert had become a flaming Red Alert and came rolling out of the oven onto the floor in the kitchen still in flames.
After the fire was out I surveyed the damage; the ball was definitely history. Approximately one third of the ball was now a different texture and color. So much for having a rejuvenated ball for my league session.
When I told Bud of the incident he could hardly believe it. The ball is now in Bud's possession and on display at his pro shop at 3105 W. Huron in Waterford, next to Lakewood Lanes.
The moral of the story is "bake" don't "broil" and then only by a qualified professional.
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