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cav

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Some more hook for more oil
« on: September 26, 2015, 07:40:42 PM »
Hello,

I'm using a Versa-Max and Ebonite Innnovate on lanes that are going from med-light to med maybe med heavy.  What is a good grit sandpaper so start from to get a little more movement on the ball.  My revs about 240.....15.5 speed....stroker.  Both are polished right now.
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2015, 07:50:28 PM »
I would start at 4000 on the Versa, and go lower if needed. Too lownof a grit will cause the ball to burn up.
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2015, 08:04:38 PM »
Thank you Doom.....I will try......4000

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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 03:23:02 AM »
You can finish it at 4000 or 2000, but you really need to take it down to 500 or so first to get a noticeable change.

If you hit a polished ball directly with 4000 you'll probably not even get all the polish off.  My personal choice for heavier oil is 500, 2000.   Are you using a spinner, or by hand?

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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 10:26:27 AM »
Lane, it's better to work backwards from 4k to lower. He goes too low, 500 on medium will burn up.
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 10:52:55 AM »
By hand.......cav
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 11:06:28 AM »
My personal choice for heavier oil is also the same as notclay, having a 500/2000 finish.  Using this type of surface, it gives an earlier read in the midlane but will tend to be smoother overall.  It allows for the angles to be squared up a bit and keeps the ball in play.

I've also used 500/3000 before and it does work pretty well also.

Quote from: Impending Doom on September 27, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
Lane, it's better to work backwards from 4k to lower. He goes too low, 500 on medium will burn up.

Impending Doom- were you referring to using only 500 or the combination of 500/2000?

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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 11:36:18 AM »
Straight 500
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 04:58:44 PM »

Thanks Doom,

I guess it depends on your conditions, etc.  I understand ball motion, and the fact that too much surface can cause the ball to lose energy too rapidly (burn up), but if you don't make enough change you won't see enough difference on the lanes to know whether the difference you see was "surface change" or "condition change", or "bowler change".   

There's really no answer that fits all bowlers on this one. 
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 08:58:37 AM »
Quote from: notclay on September 27, 2015, 03:23:02 AM
If you hit a polished ball directly with 4000 you'll probably not even get all the polish off. 
Don't forget, polishing a bowling ball does not add anything to the surface.  Polish is the same as abralon or whatever you are using.  Polish is an abrasive, not a wax or coating on the ball.

Using 4000 on a polished ball is no different than using 2000 on a 4000 ball.  Just a step down in surface.
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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 11:13:12 AM »
Quote from: spmcgivern on September 28, 2015, 08:58:37 AM


Don't forget, polishing a bowling ball does not add anything to the surface.  Polish is the same as abralon or whatever you are using.  Polish is an abrasive, not a wax or coating on the ball.

Using 4000 on a polished ball is no different than using 2000 on a 4000 ball.  Just a step down in surface.

Is that true for all polishes?  What are slip agents?

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Re: Some more hook for more oil
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 12:26:01 PM »
Quote from: MI 2 AZ on September 28, 2015, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: spmcgivern on September 28, 2015, 08:58:37 AM


Don't forget, polishing a bowling ball does not add anything to the surface.  Polish is the same as abralon or whatever you are using.  Polish is an abrasive, not a wax or coating on the ball.

Using 4000 on a polished ball is no different than using 2000 on a 4000 ball.  Just a step down in surface.

Is that true for all polishes?  What are slip agents?



I knew I should have said something about slip agents.  Those are the only ones I know of that "add" something to the surface.  99.9% of polishing done by bowlers (or shops) is abrasive.
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