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J_Mac

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Sonic-X... I think I goofed
« on: October 15, 2006, 03:48:01 AM »
Decided to resurface my pearl Sonic-X since it was starting to develop a mild track on it.

320 wet dry to start then green scotchbrite followed by Ebonite Factory Finish polish.

Couldn't get the ball glassy this way...  In fact it looked more like someone hit it with rough buff.  Took it bowling and was scratching my head because it seemed like it was on the verge of rolling out.

I guess I need to bring it home and remove the polish with the green pad and take it to a smoother pre-polished state if I want it to remain a "light" oil ball.


Has anyone polished their Sonic-X with that aggressive of a grit under the polish?  What did you see on the lanes?

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J_Mac

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Re: Sonic-X... I think I goofed
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2006, 12:57:56 PM »
ttt... Charlest?
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Re: Sonic-X... I think I goofed
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2006, 01:00:47 PM »
The SOnic series has a mysteriously & strangely strong coverstock, to me. It seems to get most of its dry lanes properties from the high RG and low differential core. The original surface, 1500 grit polished, is almost essential to allow it to perform on lighter oils.

Yes, when left with a relatively aggressive cover finish, as in your case, you need to find more oil to use it effectively.

Try sanding it to 800 or 1000 or even higher grit before using a polish more like Storm's Xtra shine, which has the ability to take the surface up to 1500 or 2000 grit after polishing. Heck, even take it up to 2000 grit with an Abralon pad and then apply polish.

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Re: Sonic-X... I think I goofed
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2006, 01:31:28 PM »
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Try sanding it to 800 or 1000 or even higher grit before using a polish more like Storm's Xtra shine, which has the ability to take the surface up to 1500 or 2000 grit after polishing. Heck, even take it up to 2000 grit with an Abralon pad and then apply polish.

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Haven't had my spinner for that long, so I'm slowly starting to gather supplies... Xtra Shine might be too shiny for me, but that's an opinion I've formed while not bowling on the greatest conditions for glassy pieces.

How about going from green pad to grey, 2000 wet dry, then the Cerium Oxide trizact disc and finally polish?  Tough to duplicate perhaps...

I'm not in any hurry to redo it since I hardly find a condition the ball is useable for me on, but last night it seemed to grab the lane more than my Fire Quantum.  The FQ was lightly touched up with the CO disc and then polished.
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Re: Sonic-X... I think I goofed
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2006, 02:36:00 PM »
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Try sanding it to 800 or 1000 or even higher grit before using a polish more like Storm's Xtra shine, which has the ability to take the surface up to 1500 or 2000 grit after polishing. Heck, even take it up to 2000 grit with an Abralon pad and then apply polish.

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Haven't had my spinner for that long, so I'm slowly starting to gather supplies... Xtra Shine might be too shiny for me, but that's an opinion I've formed while not bowling on the greatest conditions for glassy pieces.


Xtra SHine is very versatile in that you can apply a little for a short time with a little pressure and get a light shine. YOu can apply a little for a longer time (on the spinner) with more pressure and more shine. And so oon up the line.

There is no set level of grit for Xtra Shine. It has an abrasive in it that breaks down and applies a finer and finer finish; so the shine looks glossier and glossier the more you apply for longer periods or time with more pressure (please don't force your spinner to slow down. If you burn it out, the motor is probably more than the entire thing you paid for to start with.)

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How about going from green pad to grey, 2000 wet dry, then the Cerium Oxide trizact disc and finally polish?  Tough to duplicate perhaps...


Then you'd get a 10,000 grit marble that will skid 85 or 90 feet. Cerium oxide is FFFFIIIINNNNNEEEEE.

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I'm not in any hurry to redo it since I hardly find a condition the ball is useable for me on, but last night it seemed to grab the lane more than my Fire Quantum.  The FQ was lightly touched up with the CO disc and then polished.
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Try to get some wet/dry sandpaper like 800, 1000, 1200, and 1500 grit. These are invaluable for surface changes. Abralon pads are also good: I have 1000, 2000 and 4000.

Trizact are meant for VERY hard particles like in Brunswick's originals particle balls and Ebonites. On current ones, I'd worry about using them, in general. They're also good on resin, but it seems a waste. The porange trizact is about 1500 grit; the white cerium oxide - I've seen estimates for anywhere from 2500 to 10,000 grit. It actually put a shine on my Riot Zone.

Based on your finish for the Sonic and what you did to the Fire Quantum, for all practical purposes you changed their posiiton of oil handling in your line-up. With a Cerium oxide sanding and polish on the FQ, you should almost never need any weaker resin for dry lanes.

The FQ's is like most Brunswick pearls: 400 grit followed by their High Gloss polish which has no grit in it. I was shocked to see how much further my FQ went when I just sanded it to 800 grit and applied their polish. If Cerium Oxide Trizact is "only" 2500 grit, then when followed by polish, it should need a whole lotta dry before it makes the turn. But everyhting is relative.

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