Post by: slap on March 29, 2007, 12:47:40 AM
My list so far is...
Stuff I already have...
Clean N Dull
Mega Bite Particle
Rejuvenator
New items
Abralon Disks... 2 each of 360,500,2000,4000
Taxi Contour Abrasion block
Rough Buff
Powerhouse Factory polish
Powerhouse Matte
Does anyone use the foot pedal accessory with their spinner?
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"Student of the Game"
Balls
Black Widow
Toxic
Vibe (blue)
Columbia Blue Dot
Weapon of Mass Bias
Awesome Revs
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/
Post by: Hogsharley on March 29, 2007, 12:24:34 PM
http://www.supergrit.com/
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3 holes of fun!!
Post by: WSUstroker on March 29, 2007, 12:26:47 PM
quote:
Abralon right below. Cheapest price on line. Just type 'abralon' in search.
http://www.supergrit.com/
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3 holes of fun!!
I recently bought a spinner as well and thats where I got my Abralon, got the pack of 5 for 500, 1000, 2000, 4000 grit pads.
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Dan Chambers
www.absolutebowling.com
Post by: slap on March 29, 2007, 01:10:48 PM
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"Student of the Game"
Balls
Black Widow
Toxic
Vibe (blue)
Columbia Blue Dot
Weapon of Mass Bias
Awesome Revs
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/
Post by: JohnP on March 29, 2007, 03:50:31 PM
Post by: shipper50 on April 01, 2007, 12:47:08 PM
Shipper
Post by: charlest on April 01, 2007, 04:29:55 PM
- Clip-on adjustable light to move around,so I can see what I'm doing.
- Pen, pencil, notepad, grease pencil
- glue for inserts
- Small spray bottles of: water, alcohol, bowling ball cleaner, acetone. (Large bottles of the above, either above or below the spinner.)
- Supply of finger and thumb inserts
- 1/8" flat blade screwdriver for putting in tape and taking out inserts
- Ball cups for holding balls.
- Unoccupied table/shelves to the left and right of the spinner for holding items I am currently working on or with.
- Water bucket (2 quart size) for rinsing out & soaking Abralon pads.
- Columbia's CPR
- Doc's Magic Elixir
Towels:
- A roll of paper towels suspended from the ceiling for quick and easy access.
- Clean soft terry cloth and Micro-fiber cloths for applying and buffing
- Terry cloth facecloths for applying cleaner, polishes, compounds, abrasive liquid.
- Cheap towels for wiping everything
- Old undershirts and old toothbrushes for cleaning out finger, weight and thumb holes after sanding or polishing a ball.
- sponges for backing sandpaper and for general cleaning.
Cleaners:
- Track's Clean and Dull and Clean and Tacky
- Legends cleaner
- Brunswick Remove-all
- Ultimate's Black Magic Rejuvenator
- Neo-Tac's Liquid Nitro
- Denatured ehtyl alcohol
- Acetone
- Water
Polishes:
- Legends Factpry finish polish
- Track's Magic Shine
- Brunswick's High Gloss Polish
- Track's Delayed Reaction
- Neo-Tac's Control-It
- Ultimate's Black Magic Polish
- Neo-Tac's Renew-it
- Squeaky Clean's polishes: 1000 grit, 2000 grit, 3000 grit (these are OLD.)
Abrasive Liquids (+ polish):
- Storm's Xtra Shine (in quart and 4 oz)
- Track's Clean and Sheen (1000 grit, compound polish)
- Track's Clean and Smooth (1500 grit)
- Ebonite's Matte Finish (1200 grit)
- Ebonite's Sand Blaster (400 grit)
- 3M's Fine Cut Compound polish (1500 grit)
- 3M Finesse-It II
- Brunswick's Rough Buff (compound polish)
- Neo-Tac's Lquid Sandpaper
- Ultimate's Quick Cut and polish
Abrasives:
- Silicon Carbide wet/dry sandpaper (220 grit - 2000 grit)
- Abralon pads (1000, 2000 and 4000 grit)
- Scotch-Brite nylon pads: maroon (320), green (600), light grey (800), blue (1000), white (1500)
- Sponge/Scotch-Brite combination with green and blue nylon pads. The pad is attached to a sponge.
- Trizact pads (green, blue, orange and white)
- CABs for Trizact and for everything else.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited on 4/6/2007 6:56 PM
Post by: FBM357 on April 01, 2007, 04:39:43 PM
Thought I was bad until I read this!!! There's hope for me after all... *LOL*
quote:
What I have next to my spinner:
- Clip-on adjustable light to move around,so I can see what I'm doing.
- Pen, pencil, notepad, grease pencil
- glue for inserts
- Small spray bottles of: water, alcohol, bowling ball cleaner, acetone. (Large bottles of the above, either above or below the spinner.)
- Supply of finger and thumb inserts
- 1/8" flat blade screwdriver for putting in tape and taking out inserts
- Ball cups for holding balls.
- Unoccupied table/shelves to the left and right of the spinner for holding items I am currently working on or with.
- Water bucket (2 quart size) for rinsing out & soaking Abralon pads.
- Columbia's CPR
- Doc's Magic Elixir
Towels:
- A roll of paper towels suspended from the ceiling for qucik and easy access.
- Clean soft terry cloth and Micro-fiber cloths for applying and buffing
- Terry cloth facecloths for applying cleaner, polishes, compounds, abrasive liquid.
- Cheap towels for wiping everything
- Old undershirts and old toothbrushes for cleaning out finger, weight and thumb holes after sanding or polishing a ball.
- sponges for backing sandpaper and for general cleaning.
Cleaners:
- Track's Clean and Dull and Clean and Tacky
- Legends cleaner
- Brunswick Remove-all
- Ultimate's Black Magic Rejuvenator
- Neo-Tac's Liquid Nitro
- Denatured ehtyl alcohol
- Acetone
- Water
Polishes:
- Legends Factpry finish polish
- Track's Magic Shine
- Brunswick's High Gloss Polish
- Track's Delayed Reaction
- Neo-Tac's Control-It
- Ultimate's Black Magic Polish
- Neo-Tac's Renew-it
- Squeaky Clean's polishes: 1000 grit, 2000 grit, 3000 grit (these are OLD.)
Abrasive Liquids (+ polish):
- Storm's Xtra Shine (in quart and 4 oz)
- Track's Clean and Sheen (1000 grit, compound polish)
- Track's Clean and Smooth (1500 grit)
- Ebonite's Matte FInish (1200 grit)
- Ebonite's Sand Blaster (400 grit)
- 3M's Fine Cut Compound polish (1500 grit)
- 3M Finesse-It II
- Brunswick's Rough Buff (compound polish)
- Neo-Tac's Lquid Sandpaper
- Ultimate's Quick Cut and polish
Abrasives:
- Silicon Carbide wet/dry sandpaper (220 grit - 2000 grit)
- Abralon pads (1000, 2000 and 4000 grit)
- Scotch-Brite nylon pads: maroon (320), green (600), light grey (800), blue (1000), white (1500)
- Sponge/Scotch-Brite combination with green and blue nylon pads. The pad is attached to a sponge.
- Trizact pads (green, blue, orange and white)
- CABs for Trizact and for everything else.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: slap on April 01, 2007, 05:50:47 PM
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"Student of the Game"
Balls
Black Widow
Toxic
Vibe (blue)
Columbia Blue Dot
Weapon of Mass Bias
Awesome Revs
http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/slap1914/bowling/
Post by: charlest on April 04, 2007, 04:50:02 PM
quote:
Jeff, Where's the drill press?
Thought I was bad until I read this!!! There's hope for me after all... *LOL*
You won't get any argument from me. You are Baaaaaad!
Drill press? Do I look like an idiot? Wait, don't answer that.
I do enough for friends now for free. I can just see my drilling balls and their telling me the thumb isn't quite right. I'd hand them a piece of 220 grit sandpaper and tell them, "Don't go away mad; just go away."
How the drillers put up with such customers, I'll never understand.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Hogsharley on April 06, 2007, 11:57:13 AM
One thing that you may have left out of your list is an 18 gallon tub that the spinner sits in.
quote:
What I have next to my spinner:
- Clip-on adjustable light to move around,so I can see what I'm doing.
- Pen, pencil, notepad, grease pencil
- glue for inserts
- Small spray bottles of: water, alcohol, bowling ball cleaner, acetone. (Large bottles of the above, either above or below the spinner.)
- Supply of finger and thumb inserts
- 1/8" flat blade screwdriver for putting in tape and taking out inserts
- Ball cups for holding balls.
- Unoccupied table/shelves to the left and right of the spinner for holding items I am currently working on or with.
- Water bucket (2 quart size) for rinsing out & soaking Abralon pads.
- Columbia's CPR
- Doc's Magic Elixir
Towels:
- A roll of paper towels suspended from the ceiling for qucik and easy access.
- Clean soft terry cloth and Micro-fiber cloths for applying and buffing
- Terry cloth facecloths for applying cleaner, polishes, compounds, abrasive liquid.
- Cheap towels for wiping everything
- Old undershirts and old toothbrushes for cleaning out finger, weight and thumb holes after sanding or polishing a ball.
- sponges for backing sandpaper and for general cleaning.
Cleaners:
- Track's Clean and Dull and Clean and Tacky
- Legends cleaner
- Brunswick Remove-all
- Ultimate's Black Magic Rejuvenator
- Neo-Tac's Liquid Nitro
- Denatured ehtyl alcohol
- Acetone
- Water
Polishes:
- Legends Factpry finish polish
- Track's Magic Shine
- Brunswick's High Gloss Polish
- Track's Delayed Reaction
- Neo-Tac's Control-It
- Ultimate's Black Magic Polish
- Neo-Tac's Renew-it
- Squeaky Clean's polishes: 1000 grit, 2000 grit, 3000 grit (these are OLD.)
Abrasive Liquids (+ polish):
- Storm's Xtra Shine (in quart and 4 oz)
- Track's Clean and Sheen (1000 grit, compound polish)
- Track's Clean and Smooth (1500 grit)
- Ebonite's Matte FInish (1200 grit)
- Ebonite's Sand Blaster (400 grit)
- 3M's Fine Cut Compound polish (1500 grit)
- 3M Finesse-It II
- Brunswick's Rough Buff (compound polish)
- Neo-Tac's Lquid Sandpaper
- Ultimate's Quick Cut and polish
Abrasives:
- Silicon Carbide wet/dry sandpaper (220 grit - 2000 grit)
- Abralon pads (1000, 2000 and 4000 grit)
- Scotch-Brite nylon pads: maroon (320), green (600), light grey (800), blue (1000), white (1500)
- Sponge/Scotch-Brite combination with green and blue nylon pads. The pad is attached to a sponge.
- Trizact pads (green, blue, orange and white)
- CABs for Trizact and for everything else.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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3 holes of fun!!
Post by: charlest on April 06, 2007, 06:55:38 PM
quote:
Charlest, great list but what about us people with the thin wallets? Can you cut the list down to the bare minimums that we may need? i.e. do we need both, Scotchbrite and Abralon? How long does the Abralon last and can we get away the the 1/3 hp vs the 1/2 hp motor since I'm not a pro shop and the spinner won't get a ton of use? Do you need to replace the grips only after sanding? Thanks in advance.
One thing that you may have left out of your list is an 18 gallon tub that the spinner sits in.
Sorry I left that out; it does sit in one. It's not obvious,so when I went down to look at it (the PC is on the 1st floor; bowling "pit" is next to the workshop in the basement.), I forgot to "see" that. ALso did not mention the table it sits on.
Dear Hogsbreath,
My list is, of course, not what's required. It's what I have gathered and tried over the 5 years since I started "playing" with this stuff. Obviously the Squeaky CLean is used once eveyr 3 years, if so inclined.
You need only one abrasive-free polish and only one polish with abrasive.
Scotch-Brite and Abralon can be used for different purposes, as well as the wet/dry sandpaper. Abralon iS EXPENSIVE; so I use that less. Not everyone uses Sand Blaster and Clean and Smooth. Etc.,etc., etc.
I am NOT a pro shop; I only have a 1/3 Hp Vertex (it's all they had when I got mine!) As time went along, I tried or felt the impulse to try different products. Heck, I only got Legends cleaner and polish because I bought (a few free) so many Legends balls. Got enough of both for 2+ years minimum.
I find Abralon pads last 2 - 8 uses/balls, depending on how hard you use them. I cannot possibly understand how Ebonite can get 50+ uses in the factory.
Grip do not have to be replaced after sanding. Often, but not always, I will remove them when I do a TOTAL resurfacing. Mostly, sinc emine are glued at only 2 small spots, after I am totally finished, I'll take an old toothbrush and some alcohol, pull the insert away from the hole's side and clean that area. Grips should be glued just below the level of the hole. If they're above, sanding will hardly hurt them as they mostly flex.
OK I'll edit the list somewhat to eliminate less used and some non-essential products:
Towels:
- A roll of paper towels
- Clean soft terry cloth and Micro-fiber cloths
- Terry cloth facecloths
- Old undershirts and old toothbrushes for cleaning out finger, weight and thumb holes after sanding or polishing a ball.
- sponges for backing sandpaper and for general cleaning.
Cleaners:
- Track's Clean and Dull (the best deep cleaner)
- Legends cleaner (the best surface cleaner)
- Acetone
- Water
Polishes:
- Brunswick's High Gloss Polish
- Track's Delayed Reaction
Abrasive Liquids (+ polish):
- Storm's Xtra Shine (in quart and 4 oz)
- Track's Clean and Sheen (1000 grit, compound polish)
- Ebonite's Matte Finish (1200 grit)
- 3M's Fine Cut Compound polish (1500 grit)
Abrasives:
- Silicon Carbide wet/dry sandpaper (220 grit - 2000 grit)
- Abralon 4000 grit (only because there is no other 4000 grit abrasive.)
- Scotch-Brite nylon pads: maroon (320), green (600), light grey (800), blue (1000), white (1500)
- Trizact pads (green, blue, orange and white) & Trizact CAB
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: dta15m on April 06, 2007, 09:40:51 PM
thanks
paul
Edited on 4/6/2007 10:08 PM
Post by: Hogsharley on April 06, 2007, 11:25:33 PM
quote:
wheres the best place to get abralon pads? buddies has them but that price seems way to high
Everyone on BR swears by Supergrit. http://www.supergrit.com/
Charlest, thanks for the reply. The info will come in handy when compiling the needed materials.
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3 holes of fun!!
Post by: pulsers on April 06, 2007, 11:29:31 PM
Post by: dta15m on April 07, 2007, 12:12:02 AM
Post by: charlest on June 23, 2007, 10:19:53 AM
quote:
Any one seen the shipping cost on http://www.supergrit.com/? I wanted to order 1 pad for 2.75 and they wanted to charge 8.75$ for shipping. What odes a pad weigh like 1 gram or something. That should be shipped to me with using only a stamp. This is a scam!
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ARSENAL
Brunswick Scorchin’ Inferno
Brunswick Smokin Inferno
Brunswick Ragin Inferno
Storm Special Agent
Storm X-Factor Trifecta
Storm Fired Up
Storm Red Hit
No offense but -
I'm afraid someone is going to have to drag you, obviously kicking and screaming, into the 20th century (forget about the 21st century!).
Companies are in business to make a profit on EVERYTHING they sell. Most catalog/internet companies have either a minimum delivery AND HANDLING charge or a minimum ordering amount. The bottom line is they can't have several someones service your order, which usually takes anywhere from 15 - 30 minutes for very simple orders, and make $1.00 on the whole deal.
$8.75 is not for shipping but for shipping AND HANDLING. That handling charge only makes up slightly for the low profit on the one pad you'd like. They'd probably still wind up losing money on your order.
Sorry, but that's the picture as I see it.
When I want one of something like that, I either accept their price, wait till I want several items they're selling or get a bunch of friends together to buy enough to save money on the total order.
Check your local Lowe's, Home Depot or large chain auto supply stores. Many of these are jus beginning to get Abralon pads as a regular item. It depends on your area and the demand.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited on 6/23/2007 10:25 AM
Post by: shelley on June 23, 2007, 04:13:55 PM
quote:
Check your local Lowe's, Home Depot or large chain auto supply stores. Many of these are jus beginning to get Abralon pads as a regular item. It depends on your area and the demand.
I tried the Lowes here and they don't carry Abralon. The guy in the paint department didn't look like I had asked for anything too weird, just said that the only abrasives they have were what was on the aisle there. They had green Scotchbrite (who doesn't?) and two different dark grey pads that are supposed to replace 0 and 00 steel wool. I don't know what the grits are supposed to be for those, if those are the "grey pads", or if they're appropriate for bowling balls.
I'm going to try other regular hardware stores and auto shops around here, but Lowes was a bust for more than green Scotchbrite.
SH
Post by: shipper50 on June 23, 2007, 04:18:49 PM
I guess us bowlers know more about abralon pads than most body shops......
Shipper
Post by: azguy on June 23, 2007, 05:58:32 PM
JMO.
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