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dizzyfugu

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Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« on: April 22, 2008, 06:58:05 PM »
Anyone has vere heard or done this? I have a thread in a German forum going on where problems with LM particle coverstocks were discussed, and the topic came to ultra sound cleaning as an addition to the hot water bucket.

Sound like a very good idea to open the coverstock pores again mechanically to me, and I know that some small devices are availalbe for home use to clean jewelry and the like through sound vibrations. But has anyone ever seen, tried or know a device for bowling balls?

The discussion in the German board has just begun - but any insights from here would be gladly taken over
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 03:30:48 AM »
Be very carefully with Ultra sonic treatments!

It depends on the strenght of the UltraSonic bath you use. It will loosen all kind of material that can become loose with those strong vibrations.

We us it to crack our artificial stones here in the university to seperate the different phases! But on the other hand this is a very strong machine we use.

I see no point to be honest adding "physical" energy (vibrations) to get the oil out when the temperature does the job well and good.

if you have a crack or crackings around holes (finger and or thumb) I bet those will get worse.
 
But on the other hand it might be worth a try.
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 03:38:20 AM »
I see your point - I also think that ultra sound would not be very useful for oil extraction. But for a mechanical deep cleaning without sanding the ball?
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 06:09:01 AM »
again... the strenght is the thing... we have US units that are covered in titanium and this cover is destroyed .... so....
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 07:53:53 AM »
dizzy,

LOL! You are worse than I am. Stop looking for these bizarre methods (unless you have LOTS of free time on your hand). Use bowling ball methods; many of them are researched and they work, for the most part, fairly well.  Spend more time on practicing and less "playing" .

Ultra sound can break up kidney stones and calcium deposits inside the body? Maybe it can also break up cores inside the bowling ball?? Watch out!
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 09:25:47 AM »
Drop ball in bucket full of hot tap H2O and then rinse and repeat if necessary...I think you know the routine
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 11:21:19 AM »
Ha ha, I know - somtimes one can come across strange ideas and topics But I found it basically a good idea, even though I heard that hard duty devices cause so much vibrations that coverstocks crack, fillers and core separate and thumb inserts come loose... probably not the way to go, unles you use rubber?
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 01:14:08 AM »
quote:
Ha ha, I know - somtimes one can come across strange ideas and topics But I found it basically a good idea, even though I heard that hard duty devices cause so much vibrations that coverstocks crack, fillers and core separate and thumb inserts come loose... probably not the way to go, unles you use rubber?
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.... you just don't want to give up.... lol
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 05:37:55 AM »
Nah, be innovative! Could become a cutting edge technology... "next generation" ball maintenance
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 06:04:12 AM »
"cutting edge" lol

of course! Always search for an improvement!

As I said it has to be tried first... but honestly... I would not "sacrifice" one of my bowling balls...
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Re: Surface cleaning with ultra sound?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 06:46:56 AM »
Dizzy, et. al. -
Ultrasonic cleaning is used in many applications, including medical sterilization pre-cleaning, metal fabrication, jewelry, and optical/lens cleaning. My father was a dentist, and used one to prep. implants, partials, and crowns as well as for pre-cleaning his instruments (before putting them in the autoclave).
It might work on a bowling ball if you could get a unit big enough. I wouldn't be too worried about the core or cover cracking, as a bowling ball is subject to tremendous amounts of vibration and stress upon impact with the pins. I think it would be tough to get such a cleaning unit to a resonance frequency at a high enough amplitude so as to cause damage to the ball.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2008, 07:06:32 AM »
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Dizzy, et. al. -
Ultrasonic cleaning is used in many applications, including medical sterilization pre-cleaning, metal fabrication, jewelry, and optical/lens cleaning. My father was a dentist, and used one to prep. implants, partials, and crowns as well as for pre-cleaning his instruments (before putting them in the autoclave).
It might work on a bowling ball if you could get a unit big enough. I wouldn't be too worried about the core or cover cracking, as a bowling ball is subject to tremendous amounts of vibration and stress upon impact with the pins. I think it would be tough to get such a cleaning unit to a resonance frequency at a high enough amplitude so as to cause damage to the ball.
My $0.02 worth.

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you have a point there!
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