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Title: The Beans Sauce
Post by: n00dlejester on June 27, 2008, 04:08:07 PM
So I purchased some of the Sauce and got it today.  Sanded my Gravity Shift to 1000 abralon, and my pro-shop dude put a coat of the Sauce on it.  The backend has indeed returned like it was OOB.  I think there might be a hair too much on it though, if I throw it a bit harder it just skates and plows the 3 pin.  But that could be user error also, I haven't tried it much.  Hopefully I'll bowl again before league to get a better feel for it.  

It's in WAY better shape than it was when I put it at 4000 Abralon.  At that surface, my Gravity just went straight.  I think me and 4000 do NOT get along well, lol.  

Is there a way to take off a slight bit of polish?  Maybe just touch it with an abralon pad real lightly?
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: ibowled286 on June 28, 2008, 01:42:44 AM
I am not 100% on this, and beans would be the one to ask for a positive answer, but I believe that he recommends a lower grit before you put the sauce on.  Maybe try 600 then sauce?
Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: charlest on June 28, 2008, 05:20:44 AM
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I am not 100% on this, and beans would be the one to ask for a positive answer, but I believe that he recommends a lower grit before you put the sauce on.  Maybe try 600 then sauce?


Don't forget that 1000 grit Abralon is 500 grit US because Abralon uses the "P" European scale. Noodles should be fine with 1000 grit Abralon plus Secret Sauce. I know OJ, his driller I would not be surprised if he made SURE it was "POLISHED"! You don't need a lot of Secret Sauce.

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Yes, Steve, a LIGHT touch with a 4000 grit Abralon pad or a grey nylon pad, GENTLY, by hand, should help.
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: BeansProShop on June 28, 2008, 10:15:46 AM
Very true.  The first issue that occurs when you first start to use the Secret Sauce is that Pro Shops and just bowlers with spinners in general try to use it just like they do the 1000's of cream based polishes that have been around for an eternity. You should start with as little polish as possible to start. I can't emphasise the power of the Secret Sauce. Once your polish rag is filled with the Sauce. You literally need 2-3 drops of polish to do a whole ball. If you have any other questions just ask. Feel free to PM me.

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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: Grayson on June 28, 2008, 03:24:21 PM
I use the sauce BY HAND and get a real nice shine on a ball with a 800grit (scotchpad) basis... and that is pearl which is in general harder than a normal solid!

I wonder how "strong" the sauce might work with a spinner....
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: n00dlejester on June 28, 2008, 06:58:00 PM
I actually just did a ball by hand with Sauce.  I did 2000 Abralon plus a bit of sauce.  I used a lot less than the first time, using the same rag, and the shine was there really quickly.  I think the more I do the better feel I'll get with how much sauce to use.  Next ball I polish up with a spinner I think I'll know when too much is too much.

As for my driller, I've actually stopped going to OJ a while ago.  I was bowling up in Stelton Lanes in East Brunswick while I was attending Rutgers, spoke with the pro-shop owner Rob, and he instantly got my business.  I find him to be a bit more versatile and knowledgeable regarding layouts.  He worked with me for over 2 hours the first drill we did together, and it came out shining like a gem.  My T-Road Pearl and I get along great.  My Gravity Shift is AMAZING (*drools*). And he's got cheapy cheap prices for balls + drill.  My dimension was 180 drilled out the door.  He sells Twisted Fury plus drill for 209 where OJ has them for 240.  You should give him a try Jeff, he's a great guy.
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: n00dlejester on June 29, 2008, 09:20:27 PM
So here's an update of my Gravity Shift + the Sauce:

Yes, I put way too much on with my Pro-Shop's spinner, lol.  I went to a house that had rather fresh lanes, and it went straighter than what.  So I took a new 2000 Abralon pad, scuffed it up, and took a gander at what that did to the reaction. Talk about EARLY, woooo.  So I put 2 drops of sauce on my rag, buffed one side by hand. Put another drop on my rag, buffed the other side.  Threw it, and the backend came roaring back.  I was ecstatic!  I'm so happy this ball is back to basically OOB conditions, and with an easy way to reproduce this when needed.  

I did the same thing to my T-Road Pearl and it seems to be back to normal also.  I just need to find lanes to bowl with it on, lol.
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: charlest on June 29, 2008, 10:59:25 PM
quote:
I actually just did a ball by hand with Sauce.  I did 2000 Abralon plus a bit of sauce.  I used a lot less than the first time, using the same rag, and the shine was there really quickly.  I think the more I do the better feel I'll get with how much sauce to use.  Next ball I polish up with a spinner I think I'll know when too much is too much.

As for my driller, I've actually stopped going to OJ a while ago.  I was bowling up in Stelton Lanes in East Brunswick while I was attending Rutgers, spoke with the pro-shop owner Rob, and he instantly got my business.  I find him to be a bit more versatile and knowledgeable regarding layouts.  He worked with me for over 2 hours the first drill we did together, and it came out shining like a gem.  My T-Road Pearl and I get along great.  My Gravity Shift is AMAZING (*drools*). And he's got cheapy cheap prices for balls + drill.  My dimension was 180 drilled out the door.  He sells Twisted Fury plus drill for 209 where OJ has them for 240.  You should give him a try Jeff, he's a great guy.
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Thanks, Steve. Maybe one day I'll say hello to Rob. I've heard of him from another also. I thought sure OJ did your stuff.

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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: charlest on June 29, 2008, 11:01:58 PM
quote:
So here's an update of my Gravity Shift + the Sauce:

Yes, I put way too much on with my Pro-Shop's spinner, lol.  I went to a house that had rather fresh lanes, and it went straighter than what.  So I took a new 2000 Abralon pad, scuffed it up, and took a gander at what that did to the reaction. Talk about EARLY, woooo.  So I put 2 drops of sauce on my rag, buffed one side by hand. Put another drop on my rag, buffed the other side.  Threw it, and the backend came roaring back.  I was ecstatic!  I'm so happy this ball is back to basically OOB conditions, and with an easy way to reproduce this when needed.  

I did the same thing to my T-Road Pearl and it seems to be back to normal also.  I just need to find lanes to bowl with it on, lol.
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I guess you'll no longer be surprised at what a consistent process (sanding and polishing) will do when you can manipulate and test while tracking all the changes.

You're becoming a poster boy for surface changes.
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: n00dlejester on June 30, 2008, 07:40:28 AM
Surface changes are awesome.  It's so fun to see what you can do with a bowling ball.  Whenever I get a free whole day and a bunch of different Abralon pads and polishes, I'm just going to bowl for hours and keep changing surfaces the entire time.  It'd be so fun, haha.
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Title: Re: The Beans Sauce
Post by: Oldskool2 on June 30, 2008, 10:14:47 AM
You are right n00dlejester,

It opens an other "dimension" in bowling. It's great to maintain and adjust your own equipment and that of others as well.

The best is when you have the possibility to do the adjustments in the bowlingcenter. Going from lane to spinner and so on.

Antoine