BallReviews

General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: mattypizon on February 11, 2013, 09:52:56 PM

Title: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: mattypizon on February 11, 2013, 09:52:56 PM
My friend had this done today at the pro shop. It's supposedly what everyone is doing on tour now.

Put polish on a 1000 abralon pad and finish the ball with it. Leaves a shine that scans around 4000 but has very high surface deviations.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: Dave81644 on February 11, 2013, 11:12:32 PM
not new at all
same goes for cleaning, use whatever grit pad you want, add some clean n dull to it
apply to ball on spinner, awesome, fresh finish.
perfect every time.

got that from KYLE at the EBONITE booth at NATS last year
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: Impending Doom on February 12, 2013, 09:22:26 AM
I used to do this with Clean n Dull (PreEbonite buyout) and a green scotch brite. Worked awesome. Abralon + polish I never tried, but it sounds like it would work awesome!
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on February 12, 2013, 09:30:57 AM
Interesting!
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: Buckwild on February 12, 2013, 10:17:25 AM
How would  Neo-Tac/Brunswick Renew-it on an abralon pad work?
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: backupball on February 12, 2013, 10:36:38 AM
Are they doing this with "smooth" polishes, such as Xtra Shine, or "grit" polishes, such as Storm 1/2.
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: maicoman29 on February 13, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
I would like to know the type of polish used also
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: soonerdallas on February 13, 2013, 10:48:37 PM
I read this thread yesterday and I used a 1000 abralon pad with ebonite factory finish polish on a roto grip disturbed and shot 300 first game of league. I will be trying this on a couple more balls for sure.
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: lifted rillo on February 14, 2013, 08:16:59 AM
What's the underlying finish before you apply the polish?
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: soonerdallas on February 14, 2013, 08:36:30 AM
I just did it right on top of the 2000 finish
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: lifted rillo on February 14, 2013, 10:27:51 AM
Cool, what kind of finish did it give?
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: stopncrank on February 14, 2013, 10:47:17 AM
Been doing this for a while, generally Ive tried 2000 pads and it leaves a nice sheen type finish, you can definitely see the surface under the polish.

For me it gives me the best of both worlds, in that the ball will clear the heads nice and give me more of a hard arc type controllable backend. Definitely works wonders for me on wet/dry house shots, it will tame down over under, at least for me.

Did this on a 607A SE 2 years ago and shot 300/790 first night with it.
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 14, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
What's the underlying finish before you apply the polish?


What lifted rillo asjked here .... ^^^^^^
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: ken1 on February 14, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
Not to sound dumb...but wouldn't applying it to an abralon pad just instantly knock the polish off? In other words how is it any different than applying an 1000 grit pad to a polished ball? Wouldn't the end result just be a matte 1000 finish? It sounds interesting though and can't wait to try it.
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: lifted rillo on February 15, 2013, 08:37:55 AM
Not to sound dumb...but wouldn't applying it to an abralon pad just instantly knock the polish off? In other words how is it any different than applying an 1000 grit pad to a polished ball? Wouldn't the end result just be a matte 1000 finish? It sounds interesting though and can't wait to try it.

Kind of what I thought as well, but the abrasives in the polish would make it out to be more of a high grit sand, in theory.
Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: stopncrank on February 15, 2013, 08:48:41 AM
Not to sound dumb...but wouldn't applying it to an abralon pad just instantly knock the polish off? In other words how is it any different than applying an 1000 grit pad to a polished ball? Wouldn't the end result just be a matte 1000 finish? It sounds interesting though and can't wait to try it.

Think of it as a less abrasive Sand-Blaster type finish, or other products that have abrasives in the polish.

And depending on the base grit, say 360 or 500, then say 4000 ab with the polish on the pad, the ball can still get quite shiny. Naturally the lower the base grit and finish grit the closer to a matte finish it will be. Pressure on the spinner is still the key in how the ball turns out. Want more texture and more of a matte finish, use more pressure, want more of a polish, use higher grits with less pressure.

Title: Re: The Newest Thing On Tour
Post by: scotts33 on February 15, 2013, 09:14:07 AM
I tried it 2000  ab pad with Motiv Power Gel 4 sides spinner moderate pressure on a base of 500 new pad on a Primal Scream.  I didn't like the ball reaction. 

Prefer the reaction of 500/4000 or Valentino's Resurrection 2 sides spinner or via hand depending on what surface I want to leave ball at and various straight up new abralon or SIAair with or without polish.

I don't see how you can replicate the surfaces well using polish on a abralon or SIAair pad in that you are filling in the media on the pad.