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xrayjay

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to water or not to water
« on: March 18, 2015, 11:14:25 AM »
what's the purpose of using water when sanding? to save the pad you're using? or is it better than dry sanding.

I started working with the spinner in 2004 and I've always used a spray bottle with waters. lately, because I don't have a sink available, I dry sand all my stuff.

but is there a difference at all? I doubt there is, but you guys know  more than me.
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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2015, 05:12:11 PM »
I used to use a lot of water when sanding, but I don't anymore. I prefer the reaction of the dry sand process. It took me a while to find the best method for dry sanding, but now that I've got it down, I come closer to the box finish than I ever did with wet sanding.

The downsides of dry sanding:

1. Lot of dust. I wear gloves and a dust mask, but some probably still gets in.
2. Pads wear out more quickly. But I figure at about $2.60 a pad, screw it, I don't resurface that many balls anyway.

The upside of dry sanding:

1. As mentioned above, I like the reaction over a wet sanded ball at the same grit(s)
2. Dry sanding is MUCH faster. It takes about half the time as wet sanding for me.
3. I can see the results of each grit level more clearly, so I get closer to what I want.
4. Compound finishes are much easier to create than with wet sanding. I can make a 500 - 4000 finish almost perfect. I was never able to recreate that kind of surface with wet sanding.
5. I actually think I take less surface off the ball each time. I use less pressure and time than wet sanding seems to need, so I think I take a much thinner layer on each pass than when I was wet sanding.




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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2015, 04:08:40 PM »
One thing I have noticed about wet sanding vs dry sanding is with dry sanding I am more likely to get that rogue deeper than normal scratch in the surface than when using water.  The water also seems to help wash away any impurities that I might have either accidentally gotten on my paper, or something that has been pulled up from the surface while I was sanding.    Also with Water, I can better see what I are doing, the dust from dry sanding can stick to the surface making it hard to see what I are sanding and the surface would look hazy from the excess sanding dust until I clean it.    I would never dry sand a bowling ball IMHO.

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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2015, 04:40:32 PM »
I use a spray bottle with water and no sink.  I dont go heavy on the water just keep it moist not flooded.
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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2015, 04:49:07 PM »
I think almost everyone except Milo missed the point. There's a clear and definite difference in reaction. Big time, no doubt.
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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2015, 07:28:04 PM »
I use water a bit on the heavy side. Pads last longer and it seems to give me the surface I want without overly deep sanding groves in the ball.
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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2015, 08:44:37 PM »
I also use the Dry Sand method..... It's so much simpler to get the finish I look for with little hassle..... And the dust doesn't bother me as much as I a fan to circulate and air to breath easier....

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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2015, 07:19:11 PM »
When sanding dry, besides all the dust is the fact that with each revolution of the ball your sand paper is loading up and each succeeding revolution is with less grit.  Waters main mission is to keep sandpaper clean so grit remains about the same for awhile.   Even with water, grit will change pretty quick.

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Re: to water or not to water
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2015, 09:29:49 PM »
I also use the Dry Sand method..... It's so much simpler to get the finish I look for with little hassle..... And the dust doesn't bother me as much as I a fan to circulate and air to breath easier....

and the dust blows into the air to linger there, until you breathe it in. Say hello to your oncologist for us.
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