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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: Laneman_300 on September 27, 2012, 02:52:58 AM

Title: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: Laneman_300 on September 27, 2012, 02:52:58 AM
I'm trying to kill the coverstock on a few older balls so I can use them on the BURN.

I'm looking to completely kill them and don't care if they get ruined.

Any tips?

What polishes have slip agents?
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: Rightycomplex on September 27, 2012, 05:42:36 AM
Storm Xtra Shine, Innovative makes 1 that has a slip agent that use thats pretty good, and of course if you really want to destroy a balls cover Finesse-it from 3M has been a popular choice for years. The better question is where are you seeing that kind of Dry, the euipment your using, and what are your stats?
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: charlest on September 27, 2012, 07:48:45 AM
The 3 current skip agent polishes of which I am aware are
Valentino's UFO,
Powerhouse's Delayed Reaction, and
Brunswick's (Neo-Tac's) Control-It.

Of the three I prefer UFO because it's easier to remove with a light sanding; as light as a 4000 grit pad can remove it..
The other two need a rougher grit sanding to remove it; 500 - 1000 grit.

Also you can do one of the old fashioned ways: use a car polish with silicone wax in it; not sure if this can ever be removed. Least, I have not tried to do so.

If you really want to kill it, first sand it to 4000 grit; then use a White Trizact pad which is in the neighborhood of 6 -8000 grit, before applying any of these polishes.

And use a lot of polish and burn it in until the polishing rag gets fairly warm.
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: bcw1969 on September 27, 2012, 08:10:29 AM
What I have done when I want a weaker reaction is like jeff said....I'll take a ball to 4,000 grit , then use a white trizact pad to take the cover even smoother. Then what I do is I use Linde "B" Polish, which is a gritted polish that takes the surface to .05 microns, and then I use a product called "Monkey Jam Axle Polish", which is also a gritted polish that takes the surface to less than .05 microns...then I will put tracks(which is now an ebonite product) delayed reaction to kill the reaction further....The Linde "b" polish and monkey jam axle polish really work for this purpose.

Brad
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on September 27, 2012, 08:33:14 AM
Shine the crap out of it on the spinner, then put it in the Luster King machine that some bowling centers still have.  They use a solid compound that will usually clog the pores nicely.

Turtle Wax used to work, too.
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: JayhawkBowling on September 27, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
I feel the best way to intentionally kill a cover stock is to get a small cup of lane oil from the mechanic at your center and wipe that on your ball with a rag or towel.  Wait for the oil to soak into the cover and reapply the oil till it does not soak.  This process will make any ball very tame and still gives you lots of room to put any surface on it you want.

Russ Wilson
Jayhawk Bowling
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: JohnP on September 27, 2012, 11:13:51 AM
Take it to 4000, then polish it hard with Turtle Wax.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: jdball299 on September 27, 2012, 01:46:25 PM
4k abralon and Finess-it has worked for me for years on the burn....could even go to perfect-it after finess-it for more killing power :)
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: kidlost2000 on September 27, 2012, 04:04:34 PM
Sanding the ball up to 4000 grit to start, then I prefer using 3m finesse it. Apply with a rag then I use my bare hands to help create extra friction and burn the polish in. It works quickly and makes the ball extremely shinny. You can repeat the polish process if needed.
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: Wolfstrike on September 27, 2012, 06:08:53 PM

Well you could test the idea that if you cook a brand new ball over 135 degree's you can cook out the plastizer.......im sure I butchered that word......try using a revivor machine and cook it every day for a few hours......see if that works
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: DOWNTOWN on September 27, 2012, 08:11:45 PM
Take it to 4000grit polish it then hit it with some rain x.
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: larry mc on September 27, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
luster king
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: tommyboy74 on September 27, 2012, 10:40:55 PM
4000 to start and then the Luster King will work.  Never thought about rain x but then that stuff actually fills the pores when used on glass to create a skid surface for water.  That may be worth a shot.
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: ValentinoBowling on September 29, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
4000 Grit and then two coats of our polish UFO, which has a slip agent in it.

No reason to ruin a coverstock to achieve a finish/reaction
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: trash heap on November 02, 2012, 12:02:16 PM
4000 Grit and then two coats of our polish UFO, which has a slip agent in it.

No reason to ruin a coverstock to achieve a finish/reaction

I think you have to go this route. You need something with a slip agent in it. I have tried alot of methods. I also have had some success with using Turtle Wax.

But in reality, I usually have to go to weaker coverstock, Urethane and Plastic. Because if you really mean "BURN", plastic is your best option. 
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: TDC57 on November 02, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
Storm Xtra Shine, Innovative makes 1 that has a slip agent that use thats pretty good, and of course if you really want to destroy a balls cover Finesse-it from 3M has been a popular choice for years. The better question is where are you seeing that kind of Dry, the euipment your using, and what are your stats?

Not sure what you mean about Finesse-It? No silicones, not much grit. Just a long used, well established product. Trying to figure out how you destroy a coverstock with it?
Title: Re: Trying to kill the coverstock!!
Post by: Strapper_Squared on November 03, 2012, 11:24:21 AM
Try sanding to a fine grit and applying a product such as NeoTac control-it.  I also remember the magic elixir killing reaction.....