Post by: DukeHarding on June 19, 2009, 04:28:18 AM
Does it contain a slip agent?
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Post by: Cambumbo on June 19, 2009, 12:34:25 PM
Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 19, 2009, 02:19:29 PM
Cambumbo - I don't recommend turtle wax on anything reactive.
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Post by: JohnP on June 19, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
Post by: charlest on June 19, 2009, 09:54:39 PM
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Is the UFO on the USBC approved cleaners/polishes list? -- JohnP
Since NONE of its "cousins" with slip agents, Neo-tac's Control-It and Track's Delayed Reaction are approved for use DURING competition, I assume UFO is not also.
Both Control-It and Delayed Reaction are approved for use BEFORE or AFTER compettion, BUT NOT during competition.
I don't know if UFO has been submitted for approval.
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Post by: JohnP on June 20, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Post by: Cambumbo on June 22, 2009, 08:15:22 AM
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It does contain a slip agent, but it doesn't clog pores and removes easy. If your bowling on a stripped lane then UFO could be helpful on a spare ball.
Cambumbo - I don't recommend turtle wax on anything reactive.
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Kevin, I'd never use Turtle Wax on anything other than my car or a plastic bowling ball.
Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 22, 2009, 12:36:16 PM
UFO and Resurrection will never be granted an "acceptable during", UFO contains a slip agent, and Resurrection contains an abrasive. While those products aren't acceptable for use during competition, you can use all of our products before and after competition.
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Edited on 6/22/2009 12:59 PM
Post by: Cambumbo on June 22, 2009, 12:46:26 PM
Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 22, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
As for the players using the Resurrection, I would remind them it has an abrasive in the product and can be used before and after competition. I completely agree with USBC on the surface changes rule and will always enforce that rule.
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Edited on 6/22/2009 1:11 PM
Post by: Cambumbo on June 22, 2009, 01:03:06 PM
Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 22, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
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Post by: Cambumbo on June 22, 2009, 01:21:17 PM
Post by: Cambumbo on June 22, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
I have nothing to do with them and get nothing for saying this. I use mostly MoRich equipment and UFO and Snake Oil tame this equipment to the point where is usable in more conditions. Its a drag to have equipment in the bag that is too strong to use and stays in the bag, or worse yet, in the basement.
Post by: JohnP on June 22, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
"Here is a list of approved and not approved ball cleaners and polishes. For a product to be approved at anytime, the product must not soften the ball surface or leave a residue. If a product is not found on the list below, consider it to be NOT APPROVED either before, after, or during certified competition."
http://www.bowl.com/specs/ballCleaner.aspx
How can the USBC be more clear? -- JohnP
Edited on 6/22/2009 3:09 PM
Post by: azguy on June 22, 2009, 03:33:09 PM
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I would normally say something but this guy was on his the or the Coors Liter and out of contention for the pot so I figured it was best to let it go. Commonsense dictates the if it changes the surface, its not allowed
I will disagree with you on this one 100%. If you read the rules, you must PROVE the bowler had prior knowledge. That would be the perfect time to bring it to him, in front of as many as you cloud. That way, should he use it again, you have him. You told him, he knew, therefore, he's out. If you read most of those rules, the bowler had to have PRIOR knowledge, only way to get him to stop is to GIVE him prior knowledge.
Sorry, but it also sounds as if...since it wasn't going to effect you ( out of the pot ) you didn't care. Rules are rules. If you allow him or anyone to break them, why go by them at all ? Shoot, throw 3 balls in a frame, why not ? Granted, I'm a very picky one for the rules, they are there for a reason. Use them, winning a pot or not.
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Post by: Cambumbo on June 22, 2009, 07:08:16 PM
Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 22, 2009, 07:54:36 PM
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Edited on 6/22/2009 7:54 PM
Post by: charlest on June 22, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
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Kevin -- I've looked at the list again (link below), and I can't agree with what you're saying. Here's a direct quote from the introduction to the lists:
"Here is a list of approved and not approved ball cleaners and polishes. For a product to be approved at anytime, the product must not soften the ball surface or leave a residue. If a product is not found on the list below, consider it to be NOT APPROVED either before, after, or during certified competition."
http://www.bowl.com/specs/ballCleaner.aspx
How can the USBC be more clear? -- JohnP
John,
While I understand your point, I'd love to know how they can approve such "liquids" as
- Beans Secret Sauce,
- Neo-Tac's Liquid Sandpaper, and
- Storm's Reacta Shine
among other such liquids for use "ANYTIME"????
Every one of them is a fine product, BUT they all have abrasives in them, ESPECIALLY Liquid Sandpaper!!
If every one of them doesn't change the surface of a ball DRASTICALLY, I'll eat your hat and mine.
I'd ask the USBC, but I know they'd talk out of both side of their mouth at the same time like any politician.
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Post by: JohnP on June 23, 2009, 10:00:29 AM
Post by: DukeHarding on June 23, 2009, 11:09:21 AM
http://www.rainx.com/Products/Windshield_Treatment/Original.aspx
I've used it before on POLYESTER" SPARE BALLS.
If you put it on your REACTIVE BOWLING BALLS, they are as good as POLYESTER.
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Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on June 24, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
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Post by: Artimust on June 24, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
Post by: duvallite on June 24, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Post by: dicnic on July 10, 2009, 05:31:42 PM
Have I missed something? I do have a Storm Ice Storm that wrinkles a bit on clean back ends. Therefore, a slippery polish sounds good.
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Post by: Jay on July 11, 2009, 04:22:32 AM
http://valentinobowling.com/ufo.html
Post by: ValentinoBowling on July 15, 2009, 01:57:54 AM
No one in the office uses a spare ball besides me, and my spare ball is drilled with negative 1oz. of top weight. Not the best test ball.
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Edited on 7/15/2009 1:58 AM