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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: charlest on September 06, 2008, 02:56:02 PM
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I've tried it twice now. Unfortunately the lanes I've bowled on the last 2 times were especially dirty. There were some smudges that it removed quite well.
OK, here's the shocking part: it left the ball surface more tacky than any cleaner I have used including Clean and Dull. If I were strong enough, I could have palmed the ball, like a basketball. As it was, I almost did it with two hand, just by the friction created by my palms placed on the side of the ball.
I asked two friends to feel the bowling ball (get your mind out of the gutter
) and they looked at me strangely, UNTIL they felt the ball's surface. They were also very surprised.
Kevin Valentino did urge me to spray the towel and wipe the ball during bowling but I don't usually do that. I also wipe my hands on the towel. Maybe I'll use a 2nd towel. FYI it's legal for use during competition.
Good work, ... err, make that Great Product, again, Kevin, and thanks.
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Edited on 9/6/2008 10:57 PM
Edited on 9/19/2008 9:48 PM
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Kevin Valentino did urge me to spray the towel and wipe the ball during bowling but I don't usually do that. I also wipe my hands on the towel. Maybe I'll use a 2nd towel. FYI it's legal for use during competition.
Charlest, I have done this twice now and it keeps the ball tacky and when I get done and clean the ball, I don't get much off the ball due to the fact I wiped it with a towel sprayed with Remedy before each shot, but my towel sure gets black though. 
I agree with what you have said about the tackiness of the ball after cleaning it.
I haven't had any smudges to clean of my ball yet.
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"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away."
Brick
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I did warn you that it's a "Prescription strength bowling ball cleaner." Remedy restores the tack of out of box, and then some. It's becoming my favorite product we make, because of how good it works.
me personally, I was taught by Rolf Gauger to always wipe down the ball after each frame. It makes for a more consistent reaction and bowling is all about consistency. As for my hands, I only apply cleaner to one side, so the other side of the towel is free for wiping my hands. I also like to use a rosin puff.
-Kevin
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makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
Edited on 9/7/2008 3:46 AM
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I have also used Remedy RX twice and will agree that it definitely leaves the ball tacky and removes belt marks easily. I agree with charlest Great Product Kevin.
Mark
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I ordered a bottle today! I can't wait for it!
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I told Jeff, if my hand was huge I could palm one of the balls he cleaned with Remedy, that's how tacky it was.
I am ordering a triple threat package right now, forgot to do it, could have used it yesterday.
I wonder if the Remedy can remove gum from coverstocks. 
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Used to be known as Pin_Krusher or Divine_Dragon
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I ordered two of the $3 sample packs and an 8oz bottle of Remedy this morning. I still have plenty of the Legends polish so I didn't want to spring for the Triple Threat package. I do want to try out the Resurrection resurfacer for a buddy of mine. Can't wait to try 'em out.
SH
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gum? The old wifes tale is that peanut butter takes gum out of hair, due to the oil. I'm not too sure, but if you have success, we'll have a new market. lol
-Kevin
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makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
Edited on 9/7/2008 6:27 PM
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I almost got my fingers broke today using this product on a spinner, it smells a lot like the legends cleaner but the tackiness is increased ten fold. I was spinning the ball and the soft cloth grabbed the ball my hand flew into the tub the spinner sits in finger first.
It was very painful to say the least, we will see if this good or if the tackiness just picks up more dirt.
It does clean well better than legends??? Not really but it does add a lot of tackiness as I found out so we will see.
Thanks to Kevin for comping me this product when I ordered a pack of the Resurrection and Snake Oil. All are superb products with the resurrection already being a quick favorite to use for getting a sheen fast.
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I still have 8 oz. of Legends but thought this would be a try so I ordered 8 oz. today....Legends has been the best to this point but not cleared for use during competition.
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Scott
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i'm sorry to hear about your fingers bowlingnut. I really recommend microfiber towels both on the lanes and on spinners. They have better cleaning power and less grab, to prevent accidents.
Remedy has a mild odor and the smell does not linger around like a few cleaners. We actually add an industrial "chemical-ly" fragrance because the product is harmful if ingested. Just follow the warnings to keep away from children. Remedy has no ammonia, carcinogens or toxic ingredients.
-Kevin
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www.ValentinoBowling.com
makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
Edited on 9/8/2008 5:55 AM
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I got my bottle of Remedy in the mail yesterday and sprayed some on a couple of balls. I cleaned my Dimension that I used a couple nights before but hadn't had a chance to use Clean & Dull on yet, and it definately made the ball tacky! There weren't any belt marks or anything to remove, so I have no idea how it handles. My dad drilled up a Rotogrip Pluto the day before and hadn't thrown it at all yet, so I wanted to see what it'd do to a brand-new coverstock. It definately made the ball a lot tackier than out-of-the-box! I'm interested to see how it handles truly dirty bowling balls and what it does for my ball reaction.
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I was spinning the ball and the soft cloth grabbed the ball my hand flew into the tub the spinner sits in finger first.
I stopped using the Legends cleaner on my spinner for exactly that reason. I haven't gotten my fingers jammed yet but I've lost my grip on more than my fair share of towels and rags because of that.
SH
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It's happened a few times on our jayhawk but only on high speed, on low speed and on our vertex, it isn't a problem.
-Kevin
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www.ValentinoBowling.com
makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
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Just ordered a few sample packs, I cant wait and see how it works on some of my equipment that has lost the factory finish that I cant get back with other polishes, all they do is skate on me.
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Factory finish or OOB surface will NOT be changed by this cleaner. Other factores need to be done to
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on some of my equipment that has lost the factory finish that I cant get back with other polishes
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Scott
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Just ordered a few sample packs, I cant wait and see how it works on some of my equipment that has lost the factory finish that I cant get back with other polishes, all they do is skate on me.
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Ebonite - "Bowl to Win!"
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Remedy is a cleaner that will not change the surface of your balls one way or the other.
Snake Oil is an excellent non-abrasive polish, that will leave the underlying grit as it is, but will add a nice and easy shine to allow length that you did not have before.
If you need to change the grit level of the base on any coverstock, please do so before applying Snake Oil.
Resurrection is a surface refresher that will clean the surface (the "refresher" part), bring the coverstock's surface to 800 grit (US grade) and add a very, very light shine on top of it.
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Just picked up two sample packs and an 8oz Remedy.
Looking forward to trying it out.
If Charlest likes it, it must be a winner.
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just wanted to post a note out to the customers in South Texas and Louisiana, DHL and USPS have forecasted delays in shipping due to hurricane Ike.
-Kevin
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www.ValentinoBowling.com
makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
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still bowling on newish synthetics and can't get the ball dirty enough to test the cleaner. This is defintiely ridiculous. Still so freaking tacky. In fact, the 2 balls I used again all night, remained as tacky as when I cleaned then previously. They never lost it all night. Stranger and stranger. I almost felt silly cleaning them and re-tackifying (is that a word?) the surface.
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I do like to think of myself as an mad scientist, Muah hahahaha.

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makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
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I do like to think of myself as an mad scientist, Muah hahahaha. 
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makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
Boy, have you got a pair of balls/cojones! (inside joke) 


!!!!!
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Edited on 9/9/2008 11:59 PM
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a pair of balls with some Snake-Oil to boot
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Whoa, save that kinda talk for the banger forum. lol.
-Kevin
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makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
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Can't wait to try this stuff out, just odered the triple threat package a few minutes ago.
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What is sandbagging???
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Got my order yesterday and was quite pleased with the results. The Remedy worked real well and left the ball very tacky as Charlest described. Best part is that the smell of the Remedy does not knock you over like some of the other cleaners do.
I used some of the Snake Oil on a Nighthawk and even by hand it did a very nice job, can imagine how much better it would work with a spinner. High mirror shine and it didn't take much of it to get it done.
SO far very impressed.
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Got my bottle today. It works great! I really like it. It makes the ball super tacky!
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Justed wanted to give an update to our customers in Louisiana, Alabama, Atlanta, Flordia, and cities close to the listed states. Due to Hurricane Ike, we will be expecting 2 to 4 days of delays.
Orders in Texas will be postponed until further notice from the USPS.
You can get your orders tracking number, by click on the shipment email, or by going to our ordering website and logging in.
-Tom
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Finally tested Resurrection on a shiny oil hungry Elite Eclipse. It dulled it down nicely to a sheen. I followed it up with some Remedy to remove any excess product. Even more dirt was removed from the ball than by my normal cleaner alone.
I am pleased with the results and product so far, that damn ball has never been so clean and tacky.
Tomorrow I will be testing Snake Oil on a HRG needed for light to dry lanes. The underlying grit is 4000, should be interesting. If the ball doesn't budge it's a success.!!!

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The original Pin Krusher
2008/2009 Goal: Composite Avg. - 215
Current Composite Avg. - 210
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I to got my Triple Threat package today.
Used Snake oil on my Ogre pearl at 2000, came out nice and shiny. ALso did my Track Uprising at 2000, that ball is way to strong for anything under heavies without a polish I guess. Polished all 4 sides on both. I will say I tried using snake oil on a dry terry cloth, and tried using it with a wet old abralon, I found that the wet abralon worked better than the dry cloth. Will report back after throwing the rocks.
Also used the Remedy after bowling tonight. ANd this is going to be some really good stuff, got my ball tacky as they get. Awesome cleaner. Right up there with Legends so far.
Thanks Kevin for the fast and tidy delivery
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What is sandbagging???
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i cant wait to get mine. should be here any day. i had to order some more franken tape and thought well better go ahead and try the cleaner. i love the snake oil and resurrection. i've become a franken tape addict too. my lanemasters cleaner is just sooooo strong with the fumes and all. it really lights up a room. im sure remedy cleaner will be better just like the snake oil was alot better then lanemasters polish
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LANE MASTERS / LEGENDS convert and never looking back!
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wow that was fast. my remedy came today. smells like cough syrup and windex. i'll get a chance to try it after bowling tonight
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LANE MASTERS / LEGENDS convert and never looking back!
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darnit! you figured out the super secret ingredient: cough syrup. lol, I am kidding, it is both cough syrup and windex free.
-Kevin
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www.ValentinoBowling.com
makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
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kinda taste like cough syrup.
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LANE MASTERS / LEGENDS convert and never looking back!
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Just be sure you do not consume Remedy, it can prove to be quite harmful.
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makers of Snake Oil, Remedy RX & Resurrection
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Just ordered a bottle of RX.
I use only dull urethane balls on house shots because of my low ball speed and full roller axis rotation.
But my main problem is once the urethane ball gets some oil on it then it just loses its pop.
If I can clean the ball with RX during play I bet the ball stays strong through the whole set.
As it is now I get about 5 good frames where the ball is hitting super hard before it loses all its pop due to oil making the ball real black and slick.
Wiping with a dry cloth or shammy makes no difference with urethane because once that oil gets in those pores it wont come out just by wiping.
Only a good cleaner will get it out.
I hope RX will wipe it out and if it does look out!
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Just ordered a bottle of RX.
I use only dull urethane balls on house shots because of my low ball speed and full roller axis rotation.
But my main problem is once the urethane ball gets some oil on it then it just loses its pop.
If I can clean the ball with RX during play I bet the ball stays strong through the whole set.
As it is now I get about 5 good frames where the ball is hitting super hard before it loses all its pop due to oil making the ball real black and slick.
Wiping with a dry cloth or shammy makes no difference with urethane because once that oil gets in those pores it wont come out just by wiping.
Only a good cleaner will get it out.
I hope RX will wipe it out and if it does look out!
First, you should of started a new thread. This one is almost 8 years old.
Second, you can use remedy Rx during league play, it's approved by USBC.
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Have we really been around for eight+ years. Wow how time flys!