Post by: DukeHarding on June 09, 2008, 03:35:54 PM
Out of Box (http://"http://homepage.mac.com/dukeharding/.Pictures/Balls/OutOfBox.jpg")
I used a well-worn 4000 grit Abralon pad to apply "Resurrection" to resurface the ball after 50 games....
Resurrection Cover Prep (http://"http://homepage.mac.com/dukeharding/.Pictures/Balls/CoverPrep.jpg")
Picture of ball after "Snake Oil" application...
Snake Oil (http://"http://homepage.mac.com/dukeharding/.Pictures/Balls/SnakeOilResurrection.jpg")
Products are easy to apply
"Resurrection" pulled a lot of dirt and oil out of the cover.
The "Snake Oil", applies easily. (I normally use Beans Special Sauce).
I find that Beans Special Sauce gives a glossier shine, wit h less effort.
Resurrection and Snake Oil are both excellent products.
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 09, 2008, 11:57:21 PM
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Edited on 6/9/2008 11:57 PM
Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 10, 2008, 02:09:12 AM
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Post by: River700 on June 10, 2008, 02:25:50 AM
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Post by: on June 10, 2008, 08:29:17 AM
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just wait till you hit the lanes! thrown that baby up the ten on a 37 to 40ft. house shot and watch it zing into the pocket.
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AGREED! I've tried it on two different balls and the reaction was better than anything I've used to date (including Bean's). My quart is supposed to arrive today and then it's going on my Twisted Fury!
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Post by: DukeHarding on June 10, 2008, 09:15:02 AM
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Is it just my browser or did that ball change color from brown to blue after the Snake Oil?
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The OOB picture was taken earlier w/o flash...Should appear "purplish"...the AFTER pic was taken with a flash...the flash blew out the reds, and made the ball look BLUER....Could also be your monitor?
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Post by: DukeHarding on June 10, 2008, 09:22:23 AM
I'm a lefty. Used it on Pro Anvilane lanes. shooting 9 to 5, up the back of the ball...shot 222-238-258.
I bowled (sub) 24 games in the house last year and averaged 180.
I could never play that line with this ball...Resurrection and Snake Oil gave me the look I needed on that day.
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just wait till you hit the lanes! thrown that baby up the ten on a 37 to 40ft. house shot and watch it zing into the pocket.
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Edited on 6/9/2008 11:57 PM
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Post by: Berreez on June 10, 2008, 09:47:44 AM
I bowl to night and I’ll take down some numbers on angles and breakpoint. Then I redo both balls with the Resurrection, bring them back to 4000 grit and polish the Momentum with the Snake Oil for next week on the same lanes. I’m curious on how they will react
Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 10, 2008, 04:20:10 PM
Duke, I told you! I'm a lefty too and let me tell you, it is so much fun watching the ball rebound from 15, or 10, or 5, or even 2 right into the pocket.
Berreez, try the balls with just Resurrection then Snake Oil. skip the 4000 abralon step, for the first application. The 4000 will make the balls really skid and have a mellow backend, because there isn't enough length for recovery.
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Post by: heavyarty on June 10, 2008, 06:30:24 PM
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 10, 2008, 07:20:17 PM
Resurrection should give you an earlier roll. Snake Oil should give you a little more pick up on the backend, it will help the ball not be so squirty, when the carry down transitions.
-Tom
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Edited on 6/10/2008 7:20 PM
Post by: on June 10, 2008, 10:50:23 PM
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As for Snake Oil, it is a cure all. Cures blindness, sleep disorders, impotence, lack of strikes, dead ball syndrome, ugly ball syndrome, toasted heads, finicky midlanes, and it smells good too. lol, just remember to read the warning label especially the part do not consume.
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Post by: zone on June 10, 2008, 10:53:48 PM
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Post by: satwater on June 10, 2008, 11:12:21 PM
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i put some in my girlfriends coffee instead of creamer and shes been sleeping for hours, all quiet and still. its like she not even breathing.
LOL
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 11, 2008, 02:09:40 AM
But again, they may smell good, but you should not consume our polishes or any polishes for that matter.
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Post by: zone on June 11, 2008, 10:09:21 AM
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Post by: Berreez on June 11, 2008, 10:13:10 AM
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Berreez, try the balls with just Resurrection then Snake Oil. skip the 4000 abralon step, for the first application. The 4000 will make the balls really skid and have a mellow backend, because there isn't enough length for recovery
The OOB grit is 4000 for both the Rival and the Momentum. Wouldn't using the Resurrection take both balls to 800 grit? Then applying the Snake Oil would make it go longer but the underlying grit would still be 800. Going form 4000 to 800 would make both balls pickup (read) the lane earlier correct?
I just don't what the balls to read to early and burn up.
Post by: slap on June 11, 2008, 10:24:44 AM
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Post by: Steven on June 11, 2008, 10:53:41 AM
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Post by: charlest on June 11, 2008, 11:04:32 AM
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Resurrection looks like an interesting product. For anyone who might know, how does it compare to Khameleon Particle Sand High Tech Ball Restorer or Neo-Tac Liquid Sandpaper?
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Liquid sandpaper just "sands" the ball. In fact, I rarely use it because I have no idea what grit level it supposed to finish balls. Resurrection is more like a combination of 800 grit sanding plus a light amount of compounding. In this sense, it's a more like a light dose of Clean and Sheen because C&S puts a compound polish on the ball. Resurreciton puts more of a sheen over the 800 grit finish.
Never used the Khameleon product so I can't comment on it.
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Post by: Steven on June 11, 2008, 11:58:40 AM
I know there is fear/concern by some about using Liquid Sandpaper. However, I've used the product by hand for years, and it's not near as 'cover invasive' as the name implies. Like anything else, much is predicated on the amount of pressure applied. I'll even use it on Pearl equipment, and then follow-up with a little Neo-Tac Renew-It to get the cover back to original appearance/reaction.
As far the Khameleon product, I find it almost indistinguishable from Liquid Sandpaper. I'm not quite sure why Neo-Tac markets two almost identical products.
Based on your description of Resurrection, I like the idea of 800 grit sanding plus a light amount of compounding. It sounds a little like the Liquid Sandpaper/Renew-It combo in one shot. It looks worth giving a try.
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Post by: charlest on June 11, 2008, 02:03:22 PM
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charlest: Thanks for the input -- very helpful.
I know there is fear/concern by some about using Liquid Sandpaper. However, I've used the product by hand for years, and it's not near as 'cover invasive' as the name implies. Like anything else, much is predicated on the amount of pressure applied.
But you know by now, that I just HATE not knowing.
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I'll even use it on Pearl equipment, and then follow-up with a little Neo-Tac Renew-It to get the cover back to original appearance/reaction.
That could work very well I just never tried it. Since you did and say it works, I assume it is fine.
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As far the Khameleon product, I find it almost indistinguishable from Liquid Sandpaper. I'm not quite sure why Neo-Tac markets two almost identical products.
Could be almost any number of reasons. WOnder if using it on a spinner for a long time would make a difference?
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Based on your description of Resurrection, I like the idea of 800 grit sanding plus a light amount of compounding. It sounds a little like the Liquid Sandpaper/Renew-It combo in one shot. It looks worth giving a try.
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Try it by hand first then try it with the spinner. The spinner seems to put more of a shine on it, to a small degree.
What is nice it that it goes a little longer than if you sanded the ball to 800 grit and left it dull, but doesn't seem to hook less, just in a different place. As I mentioned somewhere else, this seems to be the easiest I have ever got Lanemasters balls back to their stock "sheen" finish.
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 11, 2008, 02:45:17 PM
-Kevin
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Post by: icewall on June 12, 2008, 06:08:11 PM
If i see dry enough outside tonight I will throw my lane 1 g-force evolution which was hit with ressurection then snake oil... the tackiest finish ive ever seen on a bowling ball.
So far I like the products but once i hit the lanes... that will be the true test.
the balls used are:
lane 1 carbide plus (resurrection) rico drill
lane 1 evolution (resurrection + snake oil)
im hoping to throw both but i might have to throw extra games to break the lanes down enough to need a polished ball
so far so good!
Post by: n00dlejester on June 13, 2008, 08:01:23 AM
Resurrection went on fairly easily with a wet washcloth. I did both sides and the surface has this almost eerie shine to it. I got slightly scared.
Then I applied the Snake Oil. By hand, to get a decent shine, took me forever. The tackiness was phenomenal, but my 1 ounce bottle was gone and I didn't even finish the ball. So I had to finish the rest of it with my Ebonite Factory Finish. The lanes I tried it on were absolutely fried. So, my first true test comes this Monday and Tuesday during league. I shall update more then.
Post by: charlest on June 13, 2008, 08:32:35 AM
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Then I applied the Snake Oil. By hand, to get a decent shine, took me forever. The tackiness was phenomenal, but my 1 ounce bottle was gone and I didn't even finish the ball. So I had to finish the rest of it with my Ebonite Factory Finish. The lanes I tried it on were absolutely fried. So, my first true test comes this Monday and Tuesday during league. I shall update more then.
Steve,
You might get mixed results using both Snake Oil and Ebo Factory Finish polish because Snake Oil has no abrasives and Ebo FF does. SO will add length and backend, especially over Resurrection. Ebo FF will tend to smooth out some of the 800 grit Resurrection lines not a great deal because you did it by hand.
Also because you did it by hand, you won't get as great a length as you might have hoped for.
(Get a spinner it's a worthwhile investment considering how often you post here and the balls you have and what you're doing to them. In fact, what you're trying to do to them is not doable, in a practical sense, without a spinner. It's about 1.5 new balls' worth, with basic supplies being about a another ball's worth. It's worth it in the end.)
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Post by: n00dlejester on June 13, 2008, 08:37:59 AM
I am actually saving up for a spinner as we speak. I just got a nice raise at work, and in about a month I should have the money to spend on a spinner, pads,polishes, and whatever else I might need.
Just out of curiosity, what's the difference between by hand and by spinner? Friction would be my guess, but I'm a n00b at this cover stuff
Thanks!
Steve
Post by: on June 13, 2008, 10:01:17 AM
The original sample of Snake Oil (1 oz., I think) has polished 4 balls for me so far, maybe not quite a 5th, but we'll see. I used vitually a nickel sized drop on each side of the ball, then buffed it out all over. The balls look nice, but more importantly, perform better, too, in my opinion. Too much polish applied by hand can clog the pores if you're not careful.
Jeff (charlest) is very skilled at what he does by hand after years of trial and practice. Most new guys tend to make more mess and waste, at first, without using a spinner. Glad to hear that you're going to get a spinner soon.
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Post by: n00dlejester on June 13, 2008, 12:41:44 PM
Post by: charlest on June 13, 2008, 02:51:34 PM
As Lane said, the spinner gives you all the options. You get more, more easily: more shine, more pressure, more area covered, more spread of the liquid over a larger area, Oh, and more heat to "fix" the shine, - all by a factor of, let's say, 25 - 100. That's a very large factor!
Like most polishes, the greater the shine, the greater the length. Means a lot with polishes, like Snake oil and Lanemasters Factory Finish polish. Means less with polishes, such as Beans Secret Sauce, Brunswick's High Gloss polish, and Neo-tac's Renew-it.
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 16, 2008, 02:30:56 AM
It's true that a higher shine gives you more length. Is Snake Oil the shinest? No, but our products are made for todays conditions (house, sport and PBA.) The length and backend grab of Snake Oil is the perfect combination for polished and pearl equipment. Our testing on Cheetah made me fall in love all over again with my Vendetta and Ebonite Tornado. As long as I didn't miss my target by 2 or more boards, I was able to hit my breakpoint marker and have the ball turn into the pocket. The 5000 grit polish we tested on the same balls gave a mixed reaction and the balls were too speed sensitive. Any miss to the left (I'm lefty...right for Tom & Susan) and I hit a huge zone of no return and the ball would leave awful washouts. I really do stand behind our products and I absolutely love using it because the reaction on the lanes as well as the reactions from the other bowlers.
There have been many polishes that polish in excess of 5000 grit, and many of those polishes have been discontinued because...... 1. That is just too much skid and you hit the zone of no return 2. It clogs pores and actually puts a waxy oily shell on the ball (which is what creates the skid, and it wears off quick) Here is my philosophy on super shiny balls....If you really need a ball to skid that much you should switch to a less aggressive ball. Because after one game, you then have to deal with transitioning oil (4 to 6 feet past the pattern length)
-Kevin
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 16, 2008, 02:35:36 AM
-Kevin
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 17, 2008, 03:13:24 PM
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First....I highly recommend getting a spinner. For polishing it gives you a uniform finish and helps generate the speed needed to really "burn" the polish in.
It's true that a higher shine gives you more length. Is Snake Oil the shinest? No, but our products are made for todays conditions (house, sport and PBA.) The length and backend grab of Snake Oil is the perfect combination for polished and pearl equipment. Our testing on Cheetah made me fall in love all over again with my Vendetta and Ebonite Tornado. As long as I didn't miss my target by 2 or more boards, I was able to hit my breakpoint marker and have the ball turn into the pocket. The 5000 grit polish we tested on the same balls gave a mixed reaction and the balls were too speed sensitive. Any miss to the left (I'm lefty...right for Tom & Susan) and I hit a huge zone of no return and the ball would leave awful washouts. I really do stand behind our products and I absolutely love using it because the reaction on the lanes as well as the reactions from the other bowlers.
There have been many polishes that polish in excess of 5000 grit, and many of those polishes have been discontinued because...... 1. That is just too much skid and you hit the zone of no return 2. It clogs pores and actually puts a waxy oily shell on the ball (which is what creates the skid, and it wears off quick) Here is my philosophy on super shiny balls....If you really need a ball to skid that much you should switch to a less aggressive ball. Because after one game, you then have to deal with transitioning oil (4 to 6 feet past the pattern length)
-Kevin
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Edited on 6/16/2008 2:32 AM
I totally disagree with that statement. I have used just about every cream based polish released in the last 12 years including Snake Oil and and they all worked basically the same way. The Snake Oil smells a little better but still gave me the same reactions that the other cream based products did with much less durability.
Black Magic
Snake Oil
Powerhouse Extender
Storm Reacta Shine
Track Magic
The Wax Shop's Squeaky Products
Finesse It 1 and 2
and several more products.....
All these products use a petroleum or wax based cream or something similar to create a lubrication effect on the ball. That prolongs the amount of time it takes to create the correct "heat" to the ball alowing the chemicals to absorb into the coverstock. Also, most cream based polishes do leave a residue on the ball and in the pores of the ball.
With The Secret Sauce you get the highest lustre of any polish made but you do not get the squirt down lane that you do with other polishes.
My polish was tested by Joey Cerar Jr. of the Bowler's Journal and it was measured that the Secret Sauce created more angle down lane than any other polish he tested. This was supposed to be published in an article in the BJ but it was not released by the higher ups at the BJ. Feel free to email him for proof.
I bowled on Cheetah in an actual PBA Regional in NM the beginning of March and was +250 for 8 games. I used my Buzzbomb that was polished over 1000 grit with the Secret Sauce and it had well over 100 games on it and was still shiny and still read the backend of the lane extremely hard. Now if what Valentino's is saying is correct. My polish outshines every single polish on the market which would make it the highest grit. Well over 5000 grit actually. Why does my polish create the most backend angle compared to every other polish tested by Joey Cerar Jr??
There are numerous PBA players that use the Secret Sauce because it does create that backend reaction..
Matt O'Grady Team USA is a believer
Rick Graham Former Team USA PBA member is a believer
Rudy Kasimakis is a believer
Danny Wiseman PBA Exempt Player is a believer
Mike Miller PBA TofC Champion is a believer
100's of Pro Shops across the world are believers and
A PBA Nationally televised 300 Game by Ron Winger as well as the other 4 finalists on that show...
There are also dozens of staff members with major companies that I can't mention by name that use my polish over their own staff companies products.
That is proof that basically ALL cream based polishes are on the same playing field and the Secret Sauce is in a league all of it's own. This will be shown with solid proof in the videos that will be released in the coming months. If you are interested in possibly being a tester than message me with your credentials. You do not have to be a great bowler but you must have ball prep experience and a spinner as well as video capabilities with editing software. All testing products will be supplied to you as well.
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Post by: n00dlejester on June 17, 2008, 03:25:30 PM
I tried my Pyro with hand applied Snake Oil last night in my PBAx league on the Cheetah. It plowed the 3 pin a lot. I had to go to my Gravity Shift which is still OOB. Not a bad backend, just not a good one either. My T-Road Pearl that's 2000 polished with Ebonite Factory Finish had a monstrous backend. Way too uncontrollable had to put it away. Not one good look all night
I can't wait to get my spinner so I can use polish the "real" way!
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on June 17, 2008, 04:00:59 PM
As I have said before, DON'T LISTEN TO THE COMPETITION. Try it out for yourself.
Our polish is the BEST.....Best Product, Best Results, Best results on the lane, Best Price, Best bang for your buck.
-Kevin
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 17, 2008, 05:05:41 PM
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 17, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
Let's let the video and the testing be the judge.
Good Luck and Thanks...
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on June 17, 2008, 05:36:44 PM
It is the net so to me not real and who cares who does not like you, why would you refuse to sell your product in his shop that just sound like stupid business to me.
Post by: BeansProShop on June 17, 2008, 05:52:27 PM
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I have a love hate relationship with Beans sometimes we have went at with each in the past but I have bought different balls and secret sauce. He is a good guy that sometimes like me comes off as a hard azz, I am going to try your polish as well but you have to take the heat there Kevin.
It is the net so to me not real and who cares who does not like you, why would you refuse to sell your product in his shop that just sound like stupid business to me.
Mrbowlingnut,
He would sell it to me for the shop but refused to sell it to me for my website..
I understood as he gave me an explanation as well. Not just a "NO". I do not dislike the Valentino boys but I think we both sometimes read each others posts and immediately think that we are degrading each others products. Competition is good in business. So is passion for your products.. It keeps you on your toes.
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 17, 2008, 05:55:40 PM
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I have a love hate relationship with Beans sometimes we have went at with each in the past but I have bought different balls and secret sauce. He is a good guy that sometimes like me comes off as a hard azz, I am going to try your polish as well but you have to take the heat there Kevin.
It is the net so to me not real and who cares who does not like you, why would you refuse to sell your product in his shop that just sound like stupid business to me.
Also.....LOL!!!
When have we gone at it???
If everyone agreed with everything I believe in there would never be any good conversation and the learning would stop. Never realized you LOVED me and HATED me NUT!!!
LOL!!
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on June 17, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
Lately I have not loved the new Lane 1 balls but it I might be in the minority versus majority, the 900 global covers seem to be on the weaker side for me at least.
The Buzzbomb oob was great then changed it and boom it just lays off now instead of driving through the Lane like it once did.
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I have a love hate relationship with Beans sometimes we have went at with each in the past but I have bought different balls and secret sauce. He is a good guy that sometimes like me comes off as a hard azz, I am going to try your polish as well but you have to take the heat there Kevin.
It is the net so to me not real and who cares who does not like you, why would you refuse to sell your product in his shop that just sound like stupid business to me.
Also.....LOL!!!
When have we gone at it???
If everyone agreed with everything I believe in there would never be any good conversation and the learning would stop. Never realized you LOVED me and HATED me NUT!!!
LOL!!
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 17, 2008, 10:22:06 PM
I actually do post about what Lane#1 balls do not match up well with me. There has been a few....XP and the Tsunami. Black Cherry Bomb and the Golden Nugget.
I have had great luck with the newer stuff but I am heavy handed a bit.
As far as the Sauce goes. It's like my baby so I do get a little out of control when it comes to that..
I guess I can be annoying here and there but come on... That's why you love me too...
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Post by: BrunsNick on June 17, 2008, 10:30:55 PM
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I guess I can be annoying here and there but come on...
Understatement of the year.
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 18, 2008, 11:43:36 AM
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I guess I can be annoying here and there but come on...
Understatement of the year.
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Funny coming from you Nick....
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Post by: Steven on June 18, 2008, 12:47:40 PM
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Funny coming from you Nick....
LOL. I was thinking the same thing...
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Post by: BrunsNick on June 18, 2008, 04:24:40 PM
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 18, 2008, 05:50:31 PM
No harm....No foul!!!
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Post by: Steven on June 19, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
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I guess we're all kettles here, except for Steven, who is nobody and has done nothing.
Nick, I expected nothing more in a response from you. I know I can be annoying -- sometimes unintentional and sometimes by design. You don't seem to grasp that you have the effect of sandpaper at times.
As far as the Valentino products, I'm going to place an order. I like the Sauce, and Resurrection/Snake Oil look like they could be complimentary and not necessarily overlapping. Testing will tell.
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Post by: zone on June 25, 2008, 12:45:47 AM
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