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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: rico4life on November 23, 2009, 04:45:06 AM

Title: water or no water
Post by: rico4life on November 23, 2009, 04:45:06 AM
I am just curious what people are doing. I have always used water, but i watched a   innovative video on you tube, where he doesn't use any water. This way seems alot easier, but i am sure you will wear out abralon a lot faster. I would appreciate any and all input.
Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: icewall on November 23, 2009, 01:06:54 PM
for abralon i use no water AND no spinner. to me it bites into the ball better this way.

but while i tried no water on a spinner I dont think it would be a good idea as particles of plastic in the air is not good to breath in
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Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: los2003 on November 23, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
i have never heard of hand sanding being illegal.. and the surface being unfiorm is in regards to only sand backflares.. not directions of sanding as long as the whole ball is sanded its fine.. 2ndly its people that say using a spinner get the balll out of round also so there is arguments both ways..
Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: icewall on November 23, 2009, 02:40:32 PM
so your saying if i was to sand a ball for 5 minutes on one side and 1 minute on the other that wouldnt make it out of round? come on!

we are talking about abralon here. anyone whos done resurfacing before knows how to keep a ball round. besides, even the usbc says sanding by hand before competition is perfectly fine. nuff said
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Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: charlest on November 23, 2009, 09:02:06 PM
Ok, folks, enough fooling around. We can go back and forth for ages on this.

On a spinner you should really use water. You really don't want to be breathing particles of plastic and resin. It's really dangerous.

By hand, you can do a few hand strokes to rough up the surface with anything: Scotch Brite pads, Abralon, Siaair velvet, sandpaper. But you don't want to sanding a ball from 4000 grit down to 1000 grit, or similar serious surface changes, by hand. It's just not going to be right. It may not be out of round (plastic, urethane and resin balls are pretty hard, in general) but sure is not going to be even or smooth. If you want it right, do it right.

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Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: AngloBowler on November 27, 2009, 05:40:00 AM
Surely, if you're using an abralon pad with a spinner you should always use water. Not that Charlest's point about not breathing microfine particles of plastic isn't good enough. If you use abralon without water, you're going to heat the ball up quite a bit, which could kill the coverstock, in the same way as it would if you put it in a hot oven.
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Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: duvallite on November 27, 2009, 12:59:02 PM
Using water seems like the way to go.  Do you guys just spray the ball a few times while using the abralon pads, or are you only putting water directly onto the pad first?
Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: JohnP on November 27, 2009, 03:53:12 PM
I have a water spray bottle, I wet the pad and spray the ball before starting.  Then if I think it's drying out while I'm sanding I spray the ball.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: water or no water
Post by: ecub on December 12, 2009, 02:43:51 PM
I use to spray the ball with water, but not anymore.  The pad remains wet, after I rinse off the pad after each side.  I also usually keep all the pads in a container full of water.  I found a carry out container, which fits the abralon pads inside it perfect.  I then put water inside and make sure all the pads are fully soaked.  When I need to use the pads, I just take it out and squeeze the water out.