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xrayjay

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I've had my LT-48 for awhile now, only have about 15 games on it. When I received it from buddiesproshop, the smell when opening the box took me by surprise. Strong acetone like smell.

After several touches on the surface, the smell is still there. Last night I worked on the ball's cover so I can use it tonight and the smell just bugged me.....the ball sat in storage for a month or so with the bag open. But the smell still remained.

The LT-48, seeing it on other ppls hands, doesn't seem to be the same ball. My LT-48, seems way earlier than those that have theirs. And I wonder if the chemical they used on this ball did something to the cover. I've tried the LT from OOB to several grits.

Last night, with this ball I didn't know what to do with the cover. So, I went on a "lets see what this does" mode with this ball. I put a 4k on it, to smooth out some scratches and add an underlying grit - placed BEANS SECRET Sauce over the grit. I forgot how shinny balls can get with SS. (forgot what finish/grit SS leaves, all guessing)

Finally, before I left this morning, I checked if the smell still remained after cleaning and surfacing the ball last night. It's still there...... what could they have used? And how do I get rid of the smell.

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Should I send a video to Chris at buddies? Show him the smell?  :P :P HAHAHAHAHA just play'n
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 11:11:48 AM by xrayjay »
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charlest

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 11:28:52 AM »
Did you have Buddies put an optional finish/surface on the ball when you bought it?

Even acetone doesn't linger because it's so reactive. It vaporizes VERY quickly.

I'd ask Chad at Buddies what might cause this smell.

If they can't help you, try sanding it fairly low, like 360 or 500 grit and while dull ,use one of the stronger bowling cleaners, like Hook-It or Clean and Dull. Then clean those off with 91% isopropyl alcohol.

(Aside I seem to remember in the past year or two or three, hearing about some ball or balls that came out of the box with a very, very strong stench/smell. Not Storm balls which have their own "stink". Maybe someone else will remember the details of this/these ball(s).)
« Last Edit: March 02, 2017, 12:23:36 PM by charlest »
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xrayjay

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 11:43:49 AM »
Thanks Sir.. I don't let others do my ball surface, I prefer to do it myself.

I'll email them after I try your method.

yeah kinda hard to bowl with my respirator on hahaha....

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 12:36:55 PM »
I remember resurfacing an old black Hammer and the smell was atrocious. In that case I think the carbon black used in the coloring was the culprit. After the sanding process was over the smell slowly dissipated.

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2017, 01:26:33 PM »
It's the ball, not anything they put on it. 

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 02:17:17 PM »
I was throwing nothing but Brunswick for a couple of years, and I know exactly what smell he's talking about. I remember it being particularly strong with the Nirvana, Grudge, Mastermind Einstein, and Mastermind Strategy. I'm not sure what they're using in their coverstock formulas these days, but it reminded me of the old days when Brunswick was pouring for Lane 1. Balls like the Pearl Cherry Bomb came out with a very strong scent, something akin to nail polish remover. The smell is different on the newer ones, but you definitely get hit with a powerful blast of it when you open the box!

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 02:40:21 PM »
Yeah, Brunswick balls have had a certain... aroma the last couple of years. It's similar to what Motiv balls smell like fresh out of the box but not quite a strong.

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 03:03:09 PM »
I bought 2 Strike Kings & a Outcast over the past year and recently one Rhino.
None of them had much of a smell at all and I have decent sense of smell.

Do Radicals have the same "fragrance" problem?
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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 03:13:25 PM »
I bought 2 Strike Kings & a Outcast over the past year and recently one Rhino.
None of them had much of a smell at all and I have decent sense of smell.

Do Radicals have the same "fragrance" problem?

Interesting. My Absolute Nirvana, Grudge Hybrid, and Mastermind Einstein have all had the same "strong" smell. Not that I think about it the Diva XOXO never really did though. Maybe the smell is masked with the polished balls? I don't know. It did come to mind that maybe the new "composite" technology (I think it's just a different resin mix) was behind it but if that was the case the XOXO would have the smell.

As far as I know the Radical balls don't. Phil said they're different formulations though. Brunswick provides the resin but the Radical guys pick their own coverstock mix (out of thousands of variables). So I guess that would make some sense. I get the feeling that Brunswick and DV8 balls are MUCH more closely related than either of those two to Radical balls.

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2017, 04:14:02 PM »
Trump will fix these chemically enhanced smelly bowling balls coming from south of the boarder. HAHAHAHA

On a serious note, Gene is right. The ball smells like really strong nail polish remover. It over powered the smell of my storm balls in the same bag.

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 04:35:46 PM »
Trump will fix these chemically enhanced smelly bowling balls coming from south of the boarder. HAHAHAHA

On a serious note, Gene is right. The ball smells like really strong nail polish remover. It over powered the smell of my storm balls in the same bag.


Actually Bayer and BASF are German companies with branches and factories here in the US.  They are or were the 2 biggest supplies of resin to bowling ball companies at  one time. Who knows who the corporate players are today?
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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 10:33:23 AM »
Trump will fix these chemically enhanced smelly bowling balls coming from south of the boarder. HAHAHAHA

On a serious note, Gene is right. The ball smells like really strong nail polish remover. It over powered the smell of my storm balls in the same bag.


Actually Bayer and BASF are German companies with branches and factories here in the US.  They are or were the 2 biggest supplies of resin to bowling ball companies at  one time. Who knows who the corporate players are today?

never new that stuff came overseas...informative thanks sir
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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 12:36:29 PM »
Trump will fix these chemically enhanced smelly bowling balls coming from south of the boarder. HAHAHAHA

On a serious note, Gene is right. The ball smells like really strong nail polish remover. It over powered the smell of my storm balls in the same bag.


Actually Bayer and BASF are German companies with branches and factories here in the US.  They are or were the 2 biggest supplies of resin to bowling ball companies at  one time. Who knows who the corporate players are today?

never new that stuff came overseas...informative thanks sir

I wonder if some of the more outspoken Brunswick bashers on here will change their tune when/if they realize that although their companies of choice pour here in the good ol' U.S. of A., they're buying foreign to get the supplies. lol

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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 12:51:42 PM »
Trump will fix these chemically enhanced smelly bowling balls coming from south of the boarder. HAHAHAHA

On a serious note, Gene is right. The ball smells like really strong nail polish remover. It over powered the smell of my storm balls in the same bag.


Actually Bayer and BASF are German companies with branches and factories here in the US.  They are or were the 2 biggest supplies of resin to bowling ball companies at  one time. Who knows who the corporate players are today?

never new that stuff came overseas...informative thanks sir

I wonder if some of the more outspoken Brunswick bashers on here will change their tune when/if they realize that although their companies of choice pour here in the good ol' U.S. of A., they're buying foreign to get the supplies. lol

lol very true... lets see what they say lol
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Re: what cleaner did they use to have the smell on the ball stay...
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2017, 01:34:31 PM »
Trump will fix these chemically enhanced smelly bowling balls coming from south of the boarder. HAHAHAHA

On a serious note, Gene is right. The ball smells like really strong nail polish remover. It over powered the smell of my storm balls in the same bag.


Actually Bayer and BASF are German companies with branches and factories here in the US.  They are or were the 2 biggest supplies of resin to bowling ball companies at  one time. Who knows who the corporate players are today?

never new that stuff came overseas...informative thanks sir

You may have jumped the gun there  bit.
The companies are German-owned, as far as I know, but I did say they had factories here in the US. I doubt if the resin comes from Europe; shipping would probably be prohibitive. I would assume they make the resin here in the US.

Like cars, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Subaru are all Japanese owned but many if not most of their cars sold in the USA are made in the USA.  I assume the same is True of Bayer and BASF: they're owned by Germans, but the resin sold here is probably made here in the USA.
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