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Tugger

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"baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« on: May 18, 2005, 09:32:18 AM »
how much does this help? what temperature do i set the oven on? does it hurt the ball?   Please Help!!!
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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2005, 05:41:15 AM »
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If you want to be safe, just put the ball into a bucket with some kitchen cleaner and fill it up with warm water - temperature is right if you can stand the warmth with your bare hands. But, nevertheless, avoid rapid temprerature changes and do not add boiling water to keep the tempearture up. It is better to change the water completely after it colled down.
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This is the only one that makes "bowling ball sense". (Edited: besides Hook Again and CPR)

As for baking a ball in any oven, I have only one STRONG suggestion -
DON'T!
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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2005, 05:57:18 AM »
I've heard too many people say don't put the balls in the oven. It has worked for me with now problem for 4 straight months. If you havnt tried it don't knock it. If your scared then say your scared, but works for me. My balls still react like there fresh out of the box. And throw 20 games a week.
Still baking........

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DON DRAPER

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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2005, 05:59:24 AM »
keep in mind if you own brunswick equipment the preferred method of oil extraction is the use of the rejuvinator. i have found that when using the rejuvinator regularly and paying attention to the wear and tear on the surface of the ball has kept the bowling balls as close to new condition as possible.

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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2005, 07:03:03 PM »
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ok, baking oveens ruins your ball. just dont do it. simple as that!
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DON DRAPER

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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2005, 08:15:27 PM »
the best solution is to contact the company that makes your bowling balls(s) and ask them what they recommend.

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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2005, 09:13:16 PM »
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the best solution is to contact the company that makes your bowling balls(s) and ask them what they recommend


Agreed!  They will tell you to buy whatever product or system they sell.

Ultimately it is your choice about the oil extraction method: baking, dishwasher, sun/black bag, bucket of hot water, or whatever else you want to try.  It's your ball and your money.  I've heard of people ruining balls in the oven, and I don't think it's something I'd want to try (at least not on a ball I cared about), but that's my personal decision - I have a hard time remembering when I have left over pizza heating in the oven!

Personally, I've never had a ball long enough to have to worry about getting the oil out  I guess when the time comes I will probably do either the black bag in the sun, or the bucket of water.  I guess you could also leave the ball in your trunk during the summer and wipe it off when you take it out????

I found the following on the Columbia website (couldn't get into Brunswick, and couldn't find anything on Ebonite or Hammer's sites)

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This question was selected because there were a lot of questions this month asking about putting a ball in an oven to remove oil. You can tell by the question, the potential problem that can occur.Reactive resin balls have a plasticizer in them, which creates pores in the shell. The lane oil will go into the pores removing it from the surface to create more friction with the lane. This is how reactive resin shells work. When too much oil gets into the ball the friction is lowered which reduces the hook. By heating the ball the oil can be driven out of the shell, but the plasticizer will also be removed, which is not good. Putting a brand new ball, which has never touched lane oil, into a hot oven, can prove this. A liquid that looks like oil will come to the surface. This is the plasticizer.

You want this in the ball.

There is also a thing in physics called, ÓThermal Expansion and ContractionÔ. When most objects are heated they expand, and when they are cooled they contract. Different materials expand and contract at different rates. When you put your ball in a hot oven it will expand, but the core will expand at a different rate then the shell because it is made from a different material. This can cause the core to separate from the shell. In the case above, the shell expanded from the heat so much that the chemical bond holding the material together were not strong enough to over came the expansion and the shell cracked.

Therefore, DO NOT put your ball in the oven. It is not covered under our warranty.
 

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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2005, 09:30:53 PM »
Most pro shops have it, I'd think...Columbia's CPR. I sell it, as well as others, like I said, probably your pro shop. Columbia makes it, they suggest it for the balls they make, it works, as well as kitty litter, hot water soaking, sun heating, and many other ways.

I have never and will never suggest to anyone to use a home oven, just MY opinion, they are made for qstick777's pizza,,,,but that's just MY opinion.

Good luck no matter what you decide to do.
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2005, 10:01:09 PM »
I remember the following:

Mark Martin's recipe for "baked" Bowling Ball

This past Saturday I took the ball to Bud Mulholland of Bud's Pro Shop to have it resurfaced. The ball had various gouges and nicks that had happened over its lifetime and Bud would take care of these.

On Monday I picked up the ball from Bud and told him of my dilemma of the ball not hooking any longer. He then described a procedure I could do myself to remedy the situation. He stated that the reactive resin ball "eats" the oil off of the lane and the lane oil soaks into the ball. After many trips down the oily lane the ball quits reacting. He took my ball in the back of his shop and put it under a heat lamp and in less than 10 seconds the oil began oozing out.

Bud suggested that I "bake" the ball. He described this process as being quite simple using a standard household oven and a cookie sheet. Balancing the ball on its thumbhole on the cookie sheet and putting it in an oven at 150 degrees for 10-12 minutes at a time would bleed all of the oil out of the ball. After each cycle remove the ball from the oven and wipe it off and repeat the process until no more oil emerged from the ball.

I had heard of this before and it seemed very easy and foolproof. Even I, as the master chef, could accomplish this feat and in return have a new bowling ball.

Later that afternoon at the GDBA'S office I decided to "bake" the ball, since Monday night was my bowling night and it would be nice to have my Red Alert back the way it used to be.

I proceeded to turn the oven on and place the ball into it as the recipe called for. Approximately five minutes later when I went to check on it, I got the surprise of my life. Upon opening the oven door my Red Alert had become a flaming Red Alert and came rolling out of the oven onto the floor in the kitchen still in flames.

After the fire was out I surveyed the damage; the ball was definitely history. Approximately one third of the ball was now a different texture and color. So much for having a rejuvenated ball for my league session.

When I told Bud of the incident he could hardly believe it. The ball is now in Bud's possession and on display at his pro shop at 3105 W. Huron in Waterford, next to Lakewood Lanes.

The moral of the story is "bake" don't "broil" and then only by a qualified professional.

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qstick777

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Re: "baking" balls???? *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2005, 02:19:29 PM »
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I guess you could also leave the ball in your trunk during the summer and wipe it off when you take it out????


Just thought I throw this out there.  My co-worker (and league teammate) left his balls in the trunk last week (and again today) and was unable to get a parking spot in the parking garage.  Upon arriving at leagues last week his ball bag was covered with "oil."  We left for lunch today and again checked the ball - it was again sweating with oil.  I'm not exactly sure of the temperature in the trunk, but the car was sitting in direct sunlight for several hours.  

His ball is a V2 Sweet - strangely his 12 year old Rhino Pro didn't have a single drop of oil.