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Skip H

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80 degree by 30 degree on long sport shot
« on: September 20, 2011, 06:37:20 PM »
Has anyone used a 80 X 30 (or close) drilling on a long sport pattern?  I'm interested to hear what anyone has to say about it.  The more technical specs that you can add would be nice too including Pin to PAP, what ball the drilling is on (asymmetrical preferred), surface prep and a little about your style would be nice too.  For the most part I am wondering whether the layout matches the pattern or if it would be a bad layout.



 

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Re: 80 degree by 30 degree on long sport shot
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 08:10:16 AM »
I have a C*(System) Ulti-max drilled 85 Deg x 5" x 35 Deg which puts the Mass Bias locator in the left side of my thumb. My Pap is 5 3/8" over and 7/8" up with approximately 16mph ball speed and 370 - 400 rmp rev rate aka Cranker. My Ulti-max is really clean through the front, and reacts strongly to the friction. This ball is at the factory surface of 500 - 1500 - Rough Buff and is pearlized. I never drilled a ball with this layout, but really like how strong the backend reaction is with the 35 deg 2nd angle. It would depend on the amount of volume of oil as well as the length on the sport pattern and where on the lane you are trying to play to know if this type of layout would work. I really like the Ulti-max for when I have to get in deeper and wheel it which is where it works good. On the flip side, I was able to use the Ulti-max on the boardwalk pattern, 34 ft, because the ball gets down lane very clean.  If you have a higher speed, you might want to use a lower 1st angle to help it start up sooner.



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Skip H

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Re: 80 degree by 30 degree on long sport shot
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 10:43:06 AM »
Hey Brandon.  I know exactly how you throw the ball.  You're the one that's usually walking up to the approach as I'm walking off of it at nationals and something like that on Friday nights a few years ago as well.  What I'm really looking at is the USBC World Team Challenge Paris condition.  It's 47 ft long.  I doubt that I'll be able to get much of a reaction out of the ball before it comes off of the pattern so I think I'll just be trying to get a short and quick move as it comes off.  It'll be interesting to see what it'll do and if I have a ball that I can get a decent look with. 

 

I've been considering a Big B ball but just not sure.

 

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Re: 80 degree by 30 degree on long sport shot
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 05:20:36 PM »

 



Skip H wrote on 9/21/2011 10:43 AM:
 What I'm really looking at is the USBC World Team Challenge Paris condition.  It's 47 ft long.  I doubt that I'll be able to get much of a reaction out of the ball before it comes off of the pattern so I think I'll just be trying to get a short and quick move as it comes off.  It'll be interesting to see what it'll do and if I have a ball that I can get a decent look with. 


 


I've been considering a Big B ball but just not sure.


 


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If you are  familiar with dual angle layouts,I would recommend drilling it Double Thumb for that pattern.


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Re: 80 degree by 30 degree on long sport shot
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 05:43:38 PM »
I had drilled a ball double thumb before but didn't care for it.  Much to early of a roll.  Now I probably wasn't throwing on the proper condition either.  It was way to strong for the THS in my area and I never had thrown it on a higher volume or longer sport shot before it got a big crack in the coverstock and I threw it away.