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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: MTbowler on February 03, 2014, 04:06:19 PM

Title: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: MTbowler on February 03, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
Hi all,

Lots of information needed for this post due to the difficulty of the customer. Customer is an older gentleman with slow ball speed, low revs, somewhat of a spinner type (lower track). The "THS" here is heavier oil with not very sharp backends and out of bounds on the 1-3 board.

We are having a tough time finding a layout & ball to maximize his "mistake room" as he is only a 160 avg player. Have tried everything from a polished symetric pin up to a 2000 grit asymetric pin down. Seems like he always has an over/under reaction with any ball & layout we try.

The goal is to maximize his mistake room and carry % to allow him to better enjoy the game. We all know how frustrating it is to leave flat 10 after flat 10.

Any advice as to a bowling ball & drilling layout to accomplish this goal is appreciated!
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: JustRico on February 03, 2014, 04:31:30 PM
Go with a medium symmetrical bowling ball - solid cover as to be able to modify and medium numbers - .03-.045 range...recommended layout - Rico....reacts in the oil and still respond in the dry...
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: MTbowler on February 03, 2014, 04:39:55 PM
Judging by your username, I assume you are a big fan of this layout. Have you seen success w/ RICO layout & the type of bowler I described? Also, do you reccomend any specific ball?

Thank you for your response!
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 03, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Judging by your username, I assume you are a big fan of this layout. Have you seen success w/ RICO layout & the type of bowler I described? Also, do you reccomend any specific ball?

Thank you for your response!


More like the layout was named after him so he would be the expert on it.

Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: JustRico on February 03, 2014, 04:49:34 PM
Yes I have had success with this layout coincidently (:

The bowling ball I'd recommend is the one I suggested...not knowing the customers likes and dislikes or better yet, brand specific, therefore I gave a recommendation on cover & numbers to narrow down.

I would lean towards an LT48 Vintage, a Dude, a Lights Out, the UpRoar to name a few
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: Impending Doom on February 03, 2014, 04:57:16 PM
Gonna put that on a Sure Thing. Can't. Wait.
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: MTbowler on February 03, 2014, 05:06:32 PM
Thank you Ric. I had no idea that was you! Great to get the advice from the expert. I think we will put him in a Lights Out or Misfit. He is more comfortable going up the boards than looping it, therefore I'm hoping a weaker shell will allow him to do that. Excited to see how it reacts.
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: JustRico on February 03, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
I'd recommend a 7/8" bit X 2.5" deep for the weight hole to maintain a later movement
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 03, 2014, 06:24:06 PM
Out of curiosity on the weight hole mention of 7/8" and 2.5" deep for reaction.. Does going deeper make the ball react sooner?

 If yes, is that common for flare increasing x-holes when going from 2.5" to 3.5" or greater?
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: JustRico on February 03, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
It's a give & take thing...IMHO I think it allows the ball to maintain rotational integrity a little longer and more continual...I'm a fan of 3/4" bit 3-3.5" deep for that reason...enough to effect the core yet still create some asymmetry...it also depends on location
Title: Re: Advice on layout for tough customer!!
Post by: kidlost2000 on February 03, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
makes sense. thanks