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LuckyLefty

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Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« on: April 20, 2013, 07:40:42 AM »
I am bowling on severe wet dry.  They have their stripper working right again and for 3 to 5 games as a bowl alone lefty a pearl is unusable.  No matter how weak a cover or pearl.

My solution this year when they had the shot the way they want has been a weak cored solid the Sonic X SOLID.

I have come close with a pin on PAP Hot Rod Hybrid(thinking of going to 1.5 pin to PAP as needs just a touch more backend.).

Anyone ever try an Axis leverage on a shot like this where the backend is so explosive.  ie my Sonic X pearl is WAY too much early in the set.  Or maybe a farther pin with the 0 degree drill angle.

How about a 15 or 20 degree drill angle to add a little backend?

REgards,

Luckylefty
« Last Edit: April 20, 2013, 07:42:41 AM by LuckyLefty »
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2013, 08:14:59 AM »
I would think you should look toward cover vs. drill pattern. You are on the right track using a solid. Depending on the length of the oil pattern, I would try an IQ Tour (solid) with some surface or for shorter patterns a Shout, again with surface. Have you tried urethane? Perhaps the new Supernatural if you still need a little backend.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2013, 08:30:32 AM »
I have a Natural solid, for this 35 foot shot is usually not enough for ME and is drilled strong.

Should have tried the Natural yesterday when the shot was super sparky! 

Note we do have head oil at least in the center.  My girlfriend was amazed to see pearls for the first 4 balls or so sweep from the 4 pin to hitting the 6 almost flush the first 5 or so soft warm up shots.  Once the switch to solids was made things got easier to control.  NEVER could really use a pearl except my Avalanche pearl a bit after 4 games.

Also as to my idea, I saw this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WB05Djx1Q  Note the first 25 seconds for layout.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS a friend of mine on the right likes this....first bowler Curly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGh7nRW73NI  Their shot seems much less "Sparky"
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2013, 09:32:39 AM »
If the Natural is not quite enough, perhaps the AMF Hype Urethane or U2 classic might work for you, both are significantly stronger. As to resin, I would consider the Shout, or one of the old Planet series Roto balls.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 10:03:57 AM »
This won't be the most popular response, but you will get way more out of manipulating your release to blend out the wet/dry than you will out of drilling a ball weak enough to use.  Once you get a ball that is weak enough to actually use chances  are that you can't strike enough to keep pace.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 12:14:10 PM »
Uggh, I must report proudly that I have made significant changes via finger dancing and initial position that have assisted my game this year.

For example using my original release and starting position I was standing 28 to 30 yesterday and pearls were unusable for 4 games.  New more behind position index finger tucked tight to rest of hand and baby finger out I was able to move to 26 27 and strike up a storm.  Still no pearls usable after 4 games.  This is a truly sparky shot.

Now back to my original question please.  Thank you.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS with my Sonic X solid I have had a serviceable year this year once I found it.   
 
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 03:49:33 PM »
You're looking for the magic ball when the ball isn't the answer.  But that isn't what you want to hear, so I'll go away.

Your best bet as far as ball goes it to find an older, low diff, particle ball. 
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2013, 06:39:26 PM »
How about a higher differential symmetrical drilled strong and some surface on the ball?  Burn off some energy before getting to the dry?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2013, 07:29:32 PM »
It's all about me....

Tell me about my release...

Interesting.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS Strapper thank you.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 08:04:41 PM »
Too much side rotation.  The name of the game these days is controlling the breakpoint so you can play the proper zone on the lane.  Standing 30 and throwing it to the dry has it's place, but if you're getting the over under/you say you're getting you need to cut down rotation and rev rate to blend it out.  Once you get close then fine tune it. 

Say you own a Corvette.  There is a corner on your street that you can't make if you have your foot to the floor.  Do you get a slower car that you can make the corner with it floored or do you lift off the pedal of your Corvette?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2013, 08:53:17 PM »
Great description, and fine analogies, but how do you know....too much side rotation?

There is a lot of lefty struggling and inconsistency in this particular center.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2013, 09:14:49 PM »
Been there.  The little gremlin used to kick my ball sideways like nobody's business.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2013, 07:57:57 PM »
If you have adequate volume in the heads and midlane, enough to keep a stronger cover from hooking too esrly, then I agree with Lucky. Use the cover and a more up the back release to control the wet dry. Step up a medium solid cover from 500 to 2000 no polish and then adjust it up or down depending on what you see.

Ease off with (softer) your fingers at the bottom and come more up the back of the ball. (think thumb closer to 2 than to 12.

I absolutely love the Pink panther on this type of shot. IQ Tour works as well.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 05:29:46 AM »
On shorter patterns, especially sport patterns, I like using stronger equipment with a very short pin to pap.  I have three like this that I can't get to break loose if I tried.  DA terms, one is 60* 2" 40*, one is  70* 2" 30 and the other is 80* 2* 20*.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2013, 07:14:19 AM »
Xcessive,

I have a solid which is 1 3/4 pin to pap(cg back towards palm) and it works in the first game, then hits flat in game two and 3.

I also have a pin on pap pearl(cg back towards grip center). that is just not quite enough.  Thought of moving that to 1.5 inch.

Surprisingly a 2 inch pin to pap pearl(stacked), an absolute Dud.

Regards,

Luckylefty
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