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LuckyLefty

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Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« on: April 20, 2013, 07:40:42 AM »
I am bowling on severe wet dry.  They have their stripper working right again and for 3 to 5 games as a bowl alone lefty a pearl is unusable.  No matter how weak a cover or pearl.

My solution this year when they had the shot the way they want has been a weak cored solid the Sonic X SOLID.

I have come close with a pin on PAP Hot Rod Hybrid(thinking of going to 1.5 pin to PAP as needs just a touch more backend.).

Anyone ever try an Axis leverage on a shot like this where the backend is so explosive.  ie my Sonic X pearl is WAY too much early in the set.  Or maybe a farther pin with the 0 degree drill angle.

How about a 15 or 20 degree drill angle to add a little backend?

REgards,

Luckylefty
« Last Edit: April 20, 2013, 07:42:41 AM by LuckyLefty »
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2013, 10:12:27 AM »
What about a strong(ish) Solid with low diff and a 2000 or 4000 surface?

Balls that come to mind:

IQ Tour Solid
Ogre Solid (maybe the pearl with the shine knocked off?)
Seismic Blackout
RG Shout
Cobra SE

or if one of those doesn't work Maybe give Storm's supernatural a shot when it comes out. Supposed to be a bit stronger then the previous ones.

If your still having problems with over-raction at that point you probably need to learn to move right and bounce it off of the friction.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2013, 12:19:53 PM »
I tried one about 6-7 years ago and loved how smooth this drilling rolled. The only issue I had was trying to move in and swing the ball with this drilling. You would leave a lot of corner pins. 

I also believe on FB that Ryan Ciminelli drilled a bunch of stuff this way and was able to stay in the dry longer without moving way left.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2013, 09:30:13 PM »
Guys thanks for your comments. 

I also was fortunate enough to go watch the tournament at the Villages and watch Johhnie P tear it up with his DV8.

Discussed drillings with his ball rep and he mentioned that the 2 inch pin to pap was often a winner on a short shot like at that tourney and that as the shot progressed they would move off this when carry died.

Informative there and here!  Thank you...

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2013, 09:59:25 PM »
Lucky,

What ball is this layout on?  I had that problem a tropical heat on carrydown and had to wait until that broke down.  However, having that layout on a sync I've had no issues.  Furthermore, going to 1.5" instead of 1.75" will just make it flare even less.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2013, 10:05:27 PM »
Was it a DV8 Marauder solid?  Very smooth.  But when I saw him he was off that drilling to more of a standard pin under ring.

Looking very good.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2013, 10:01:13 PM »
Hey,  that shot on this week from Milwaukee the 32 foot shot!  I play the lane almost exactly the same except slightly wider being lefty!

That is almost my league shot!  Except I have more out of bounds at 35 feet!
Driving ball to the gutter and having to catch and rev it is how I have had my highest games on this shot!  Sometimes you don't catch it enough!  Gutter!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2013, 10:08:27 PM »
I have drilled a number of balls with the pin 1 inch from the PAP and the CG at 135 degrees (PIN/PAP line to PIN/CG line).  CG results in side and finger weight for me.  I find that the reaction varies a lot base on the ball.  Some ball are dead when they hit the pocket and some are monsters.  Available balls that I have success with are the Brunswick Karmas.  The urethane rolls evenly with a little finish at the end.  The green pearl makes a strong move off the end of the pattern, almost flip.  The urethane and pearl hits well for me.  The solid gives a roll/set reaction and poor carry.  (Maybe because I don't put speed  and revs on the ball.)  Someone else with more speed and revs tried the ball and he liked it because it set up and carried for him.  My recommendation for you is to try it on a urethane or solid Karma.  I usually use balls with 2.5-3 pin and 2-3 top.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2013, 08:14:11 AM »
A second house I have now started bowling in has a classic wet/dry over under.

Lots of friction outside 10....All the way down the lane.  The classic wet dry expectation.  The wider one projects the more the ball comes back.  So balls that hit the 3 board at the break point crossover, balls that hit 9 flush.

There I can use classic pin ups(not much volume) I have found the solution there is parallel moves instead of 2 and 1s and the like.  It is also here that my 2 inch pin to pap 135 degree angle Hammer Onyx Vibe is not bad, until it loses hit late in game 2.

The interesting place is still the first house which bowls like a bigger hang spot version of the 32 foot shot I just saw on TV this weekend.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS a side note I have been practicing some days for free speed and it seems to be taking out the wet dry on some of the conditions I am seeing.
Also it is seeming that with this my axis rotation might be getting closer to 45 degrees at times.  Both are positives.
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Re: Axis Leverage or 0 degree drill angles
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2013, 09:37:36 AM »
Went 20 x 1 x 20 on a Seismic Aftermath for the Senior Australian Open on WTBA Los Angeles - 36.  I found I had more control of the break point than anyone else in the tournament.  The carry was slightly compromised on some occasions, but the 213 average was enough to win.

I chose that layout because I wanted the ball to burn up a bit on the high friction surface (HPL) to control the back end reaction and give me some forgiveness in the length of the breakpoint.  As the scoring pace was a bit of a grind, this strategy worked out perfectly against a lot of guys with more aggressive layouts who had higher strike percentages than me, but were also leaving a lot more ugly spares and splits due to chronic over/under.
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