Depends what your PAP is.  It's still a strong mass bias placement, but if your PAP is 5" over that might be a 5 1/2 pin with a strong mass bias.  If you're like me and your axis point is 3 3/4 over that's a 4 inch pin with a strong mass bias which is a violent type of reaction for me.  With a higher track player it might be the smoothness they need but every drilling doesn't work for every bowler.

...wow, maybe I should put that in my sig.
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