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Hex017

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Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« on: May 16, 2005, 09:00:27 AM »
Yesterday bowled in the second day of the gateway classic(which I will make a post on, had some very interesting things happen). I started off poorly due to flying backends, the backends were sqeaky clean and the head oil was not enough. I was having major troubles controling my breakpoint. I got locked in once carrydown helped control my breakpoint, but if I had done better the first 3 games I would possibly have been in the finals rather than at the back of the field.

 In other words, my question to you ball gurus, what are some good drillings to control your breakpoint? It seems like all my equipment wants to make a left turn as soon as it hits the dry, and when there is no hold area or carry down, I struggle to stay clean while others take advantage and eat my scores alive. I am getting a slate blue gargoyle soon for dry lanes but I am thinking of maybe replacing my thrash with something that can handle medium oil with more CONTROL.

 Just curious, what are good drillings to tame the backend? I saw 2 guys throwing balls with the pins right in the middle of the gripline. They bowled extremely well. I was thinking that might be the way to go. Any comments? Just want to have some good ideas before picking up my new stuff.
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Re: Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2005, 12:22:19 AM »
good job Greg7.
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Hex017

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Re: Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2005, 08:50:46 PM »
Thanks for the responses, as for specs Greg....I'm working on it...if summer would ever get here!!! These last 2 weeks of school Drag................Anyway I have another question, as I said already at the gateway tourney I was at I saw two guys using balls with pins directly in the center of grip. Does this basically take the core right out of play? I was thinking this might be awesome for control...what do you guys know/think?
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Re: Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2005, 11:46:22 AM »
The surface of the ball will have the biggest effect on the backends. Plastic may be the way to go. An old Yellow Dot or a Buzzsaw XXXL will work perfectly until the oil carries down. Maybe even an old urethane Hammer. This will be your best bet.

If you want to try a different layout ona resin ball, pin axis with a 10" hole from grip center will give you more length thru the backend with a strong finish.

Using a 6" pin to PAP will start the ball earlier on the backend, but will make the ball stop and/or roll out in the pocket. This could also work, but depending on your side turn, or lack thereof, you could have carry problems if the ball starts up too soon and/or rolls out too soon. =:^D

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Re: Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2005, 03:43:09 PM »
I will be buying a slate blue gargoyle soon...do you think this would be an appropriate ball for using a weaker drilling?
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Re: Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2005, 08:19:42 PM »
i know how you feel. i have a hot rod drilled with pin above my ring finger the cg directly below to the right of my palm and my mb ended up a little to the right and just below my thumb. this works perfect for me...the ball goes really long and makes a controlable turn....well im done.

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Re: Ball drillings for dry/flying backends
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2005, 01:28:52 PM »
105, 135 are good if you need more push and arc.  With flying backends, I have never had success with axis weighted balls.   For me personally they want to lay down at my toe, and then puke on the backs.   This alleviates the core, but doesn't allow for any recovery or carry, IMO!!!  NOTICE THE IMO.    

I belive this has been discussed at length, resulting in tempers flaring, in the past.  

I personally use 6" pin to PAP @ 45* with an X hole on the axis to combat this.  But, I also have enough hand to get the 6" pin to my axis before hitting the pins as well, where many players cannot.  

Many have had sucess with 135* layouts as well.
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