Author Topic: What "tricks" for a Spinner (Read 3726 times)

tommymo · « **on:** February 10, 2009, 06:40:36 AM »

I have a guy in our house that is a very hard throwing spinner. His average speed, qubica, is 20mph. He wants a new ball, currently throwing a Cell, and says he wants it to "hook". I trying to think of what to do but am dumbfounded. I was thinking of taking a relatively strong ball, putting the pin on his axis (to help the ball get into a roll) and hitting the ball with maybe 320 grit. Still don't know what ball he's gonna want. What do you guys do when drilling for a spinner?

Tom
--------------------
Becoming a father isn''t difficult, But it''s very difficult to be a father.

10/21/05 Kaitlyn Emily and 02/01/07 Meghan Alexis, Daddy''s little girls!

R.I.P Kevin Trombley 11/26/05 You were taken too soon!

Visionary Test Staff Member 07/08
Frankie May Gryphon
Immortal Pearl
Ogre Pearl
B/G Centaur

makpa · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2009, 06:27:23 AM »

im a low tracker to. but have a decent amount of revs and speed. to get a early and strong move for me it has to be 3 3/8" from pap pin down and mb in strong position. a rico layout might be to early if he wants it to "hook"

ballboy · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2009, 08:04:19 AM »

He will need surface and a drilling to let the ball stand up sooner. Try giving his middle finger (assuming right handed) 1/16 more span and go 3/8 away on pitch. Shorten ring span by 1/16 and go 3/8 forward on pitch. Changing span/pitch this way will make the ball feel the same but will decrease axis tilt and will help the ball stand up in the mid-lane.

Really should go with a pin down drilling.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:21:04 AM »

I'd also consider a leverage setup, pin at 3 3/8" from PAP (should end up under the fingers for a low tracker) with a stacked CG/MB to help the ball break and get into a roll. Extra surface is also helpful.

If she does not want to stick with the Cell, a (very) low RG ball with high differential would help her, too. This gets the ball into a roll more easily, and a high differential paired with a strong drilling liek a leverage setup will make the core migrate towards it stable end roll axis quickly.

A Total Inferno would IMHO be a good candidate (even though it is discontinued), maybe a MAXXX Zopne, Hammer's Sauce, a Break Solid or S75, or a LevRG.
--------------------
DizzyFugu - Reporting from Germany

Confused by bowling?
Check out BR.com's vault of wisdom: the unofficial FAQ section

leftyinsnellville · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:27:54 AM »

Echo the pin down and 3 and 3/8 from PAP, with leverage drilling. Might want to try AMF's newest...Mega-Friction or possibly Lanemasters' Dynamic Power Particle.

FrontTwelv · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2009, 07:34:17 AM »

quote:
He will need surface and a drilling to let the ball stand up sooner. Try giving his middle finger (assuming right handed) 1/16 more span and go 3/8 away on pitch. Shorten ring span by 1/16 and go 3/8 forward on pitch. Changing span/pitch this way will make the ball feel the same but will decrease axis tilt and will help the ball stand up in the mid-lane.

Really should go with a pin down drilling.

dropping the ring finger will increase axis tilt, making more of a spin. ide suggest if you're changing spans and pitches, pitch the fingers more to the left. it will put more pressure on the inside of the palm and encourage less tilt
--------------------
Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

Edited on 2/12/2009 8:41 AM

bowler851 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2009, 07:38:29 AM »

How about lessons instead of a new ball.

tommymo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2009, 10:21:34 AM »

Thanks for all the input. I agree that 3-3/8 stacked with surface will probably be the best. I will suggest a few balls mentioned and see what he says.
--------------------
Becoming a father isn't difficult, But it's very difficult to be a father.

10/21/05 Kaitlyn Emily and 02/01/07 Meghan Alexis, Daddy's little girls!

R.I.P Kevin Trombley 11/26/05 You were taken too soon!

Visionary Test Staff Member 07/08
Frankie May Gryphon
Immortal Pearl
Ogre Pearl
B/G Centaur

tenpinspro · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:37:09 PM »

Hey tommy,

"thinking outside the box"..I've placed some pins left of middle finger which helped the spin track actually raise up some to where the track was more effective "but"...at his speed, this makes it pretty tough. Unless his rev to speed ratio matches, getting him to hook is a little tough.

I agree with using as much surface as possible combined with a very aggressive piece.
--------------------
Rick Leong - Ten Pins Pro Shop
Tag Team Coaching - Co-Founder
"El" Presidente of the Legion

Edited on 2/13/2009 2:46 PM

tommymo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2009, 06:23:28 AM »

Thanks,
His rev rate is no wheres close to matching up. I think surface and a very strong ball is the only way to go.
--------------------
Becoming a father isn't difficult, But it's very difficult to be a father.

10/21/05 Kaitlyn Emily and 02/01/07 Meghan Alexis, Daddy's little girls!

R.I.P Kevin Trombley 11/26/05 You were taken too soon!

Visionary Test Staff Member 07/08
Frankie May Gryphon
Immortal Pearl
Ogre Pearl
B/G Centaur

Author Topic: What "tricks" for a Spinner (Read 3726 times)

tommymo

What "tricks" for a Spinner

makpa

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

ballboy

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

dizzyfugu

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

leftyinsnellville

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

FrontTwelv

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

bowler851

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

tommymo

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

tenpinspro

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner

tommymo

Re: What "tricks" for a Spinner