Author Topic: Question about lateral pitches... (Read 1904 times)

DukeHarding · « **on:** January 10, 2006, 05:25:22 AM »

I'm reading "Bill Taylor's: Fitting and Drilling a Bowling Ball" (Christmas Present).

Interesting book, well worth the money.

On page 44, under lateral and vertical (thumb) pitch relationships, he states that this is useful rule:

"For each 1/8" reduction or increase in lateral pitch (from a PROPER fit), increase or decrease reverse vertical pitch by 1/16".

The rule is: 1/16th inch of vertical pitch for each 1/8th inch of lateral pitch."

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OK...Now the question: I just changed from 1/8" reverse to 1/4" forward in my thumb, keeping the same lateral of 0 - 1/16"left lateral. According to this rule, I should be using 3/16" left lateral, correct? (I'm a LEFTY)

I know that none of this is written in stone...
The left lateral would keep me in the ball longer, lowering my track, correct?

Or am I off-base on this?
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Edited on 1/10/2006 3:44 PM

DukeHarding · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2006, 02:59:03 PM »

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I've got the book and read it 100 times. There are some contradictions in all of this that i cant explain. Theoretically, to lower a track you use under the palm pitch. So, if you are righty, I can't understand this. I went from 0 lateral to 1/4 right (under palm) and lowered my track considerably. At 0 my track was about 1/4 off my thumb. At 1/4 right my track is about 2.5" off my thumb. I have read other drilling manuals that also state right pitch to lower track. Now, I'm not taking anything away from Bill Taylor, but I do question how this piece of information can be of opinion and not fact. There can be differences of opinion on the span length and forward/reverse, etc. But to say a certain move WILL have a certain affect..........Don't know. Personally, I believe it is wrong.

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Edited on 1/10/2006 3:40 PM

Greg,
I'm a LEFTY, should have put that in there... So the 1/4 pitch change lowered your track by 2-1/4" off of your thumb only? Not your fingers, also?

Thanks.
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njv29 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2006, 03:23:43 PM »

More under-palm lateral pitch intuitively would give a lower track.

- Lower track usually indicates more of a spin than a roll
- The easiest way to spin the ball is to hold onto the ball just a split second longer through your swing, allowing your hand to naturally come around the ball
- The more under-palm lateral pitch you have, the longer your thumb will stay in the ball (usually)
- The end result is you are forced to release the ball a little later in the swing, allowing your hand to circle the ball a little bit more.

On the other hand, though, track height is much more dependent on your physical style and is most affected just by how you throw the ball than your pitches. Changing your pitch an 1/8th of an inch is not going to magically lower your track off of your thumb without effecting your timing.

I used to clip my thumb on every ball, after about 2 months of work on coming cleaner through the ball and relaxing my thumb, my track is now usually about 1 1/2" off the thumb, and I can now throw pin-under balls without any issues (Thank god! My ball reaction was extremelly limited before the change!).

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DukeHarding · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2006, 03:51:41 PM »

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Having met Bill and talked with him about why he does certain things, the lateral is meant to allow your hand to naturally rotate around the ball, as opposed to you turning your hand. With my flex, he wanted me to go 5/16th forward and 1/4 right with my right hand. I personally felt that if I wasn't used to turning my hand, the 1/4 lateral would have worked, but I really felt like my wrist was cocked in the ball at all times.

So from what I see, the lateral under will actually not affect how early you come out of the ball, the forward and reverse does that. It does affect how your hand comes around the ball.

Just a thought for you, Duke.

Jeremy
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Jeremy,
Thanks...I'm looking to come around the ball a little more. May give it a try in my drilling.
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Sawuser · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2006, 05:20:36 PM »

All you high trackers make me mad!

I have zero lateral with 1/8 forward & I can't keep from coming around the ball. If I try to stay completely behind the ball like throwing a straight ball, that's exactly what I get, but even doing that, my track is still not a high track.

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