Post by: OHBowler on October 14, 2007, 09:29:13 PM
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Post by: Russell on October 15, 2007, 12:32:05 PM
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Post by: OHBowler on October 15, 2007, 12:38:44 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on October 15, 2007, 12:39:48 PM
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Post by: Lillen on October 15, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
dual angle layout technique
you need 3 things
1) A drilling angle
2) a distance from the positive axis point (PAP)
3) an angle between the pin to PAP line and the vertical axis line(VAL)
Post by: Strapper_Squared on October 15, 2007, 01:03:17 PM
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How does it differ from Denny Torgeson's degree layout system?
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Uses an additional angle. Not only do you have the angle between the pin/mb line and your PAP, but also an angle between your pin/PAP line and the VAL.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on October 15, 2007, 01:12:01 PM
The two angles are measured.. Where?
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Post by: revTrex on October 15, 2007, 01:22:33 PM
Then comes the pin-PAP distance. This is not new.
Then comes the pin-PAP line to VAL line degree measurement. This is remotely new.
To get the last angle, draw a line from the pin to the PAP. Then measure the angle to the VAL. A smaller angler will place the pin closer to the VAL, while a larger angle will place the pin further away.
Hope this helps. About "which is the best" or "what has been successful"...it really all depends. There is no "one" or "best" drilling. To each his own, my friend.
Post by: Strapper_Squared on October 15, 2007, 01:27:04 PM
I guess you need to go to a seminar for that information
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Post by: scotts33 on October 15, 2007, 01:29:09 PM
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Uses an additional angle. Not only do you have the angle between the pin/mb line and your PAP, but also an angle between your pin/PAP line and the VAL.
So, what does the 2nd angle tell you Strapper?
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Post by: Keith Frye on October 15, 2007, 01:32:35 PM
Post by: All10 on October 15, 2007, 01:44:26 PM
I works, some of the layouts look odd but they work.
Post by: OHBowler on October 15, 2007, 03:01:42 PM
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Post by: Strapper_Squared on October 15, 2007, 03:21:25 PM
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So, what does the 2nd angle tell you Strapper?
Essentially how far the pin will be located from the VAL. The larger the angle, the further the pin will be away and the smaller the angle, the closer. With the Storm layout method, pins closer to the VAL (< 1.5") give more length/backend, while pins further away from the VAL (> 3") give an earlier reaction/smoother backend.
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Post by: J_Mac on October 15, 2007, 08:54:32 PM
Hopefully I'll also discover why there are some balls in my arsenal that I really like, and other's that I totally despise on most occasions.
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Post by: Dyno-Joe on October 15, 2007, 09:12:52 PM
1. Speed highly dominates revs
2. Speed mildly dominates revs
3. Revs and speed matches up
4. Revs mildly dominates speed
5. Revs highly dominates speed
A number 1 type of player wants the ball to read the friction as soon as possible with the quickest response to friction (10* pin, 20* mb).A number 5 wants the ball to have the longest reaction while having the longest response to friction (90* pin, 70* mb). Hope that helps.
Post by: Asura on October 16, 2007, 09:20:31 AM
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It sounds like the dual angle method is pretty much the same as using the Pin Buffer method as on Storm's drill sheets. Except angles are used (with a Pro Sect) instead of drawing circles thus eliminating the need for a compass.
Agreed, I believe Turbo Grips has this Motion Enhancement chart on Dual angle if you download their Prosect user guide. They also state the flare safe zone for bowlers according to their horizontal measurement. Hope this helps.
http://www.turbogrips.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=16&Itemid=50
Post by: TBS1 on October 16, 2007, 06:05:02 PM
For instance, my first out of the bag ball (RSX pin down- cg swung 45 degrees) translates to 50 degree, 4 inch, 50 degree. sum of angles is 100.
So in theory, if I wanted an earlier reaction but have a fast transition off the dry- I would lower my sum of angles by 60 degrees (10 degree drill angle, 30 degree val angle)
Or if I wanted length with slow transition, I would raise the my sum of angles
(70 degree drill angle, 70 degree val angle)
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