Author Topic: high track (Read 2685 times)

Matt Fortney · « **on:** May 01, 2005, 01:19:54 PM »

is there anything that i can do from a drilling standpoint that would lower track? i have to keep the pins in everythig up above fingers, and even then the first ring of flare goes over the thumb. anything i can do? maybe drill the thumb deeper? i read somewhere taking weight out of the thumb quadrant on the rico1 drill would lower the bowtie a bit..would this help? let me know. thanks.

matt

stanski · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2005, 10:24:20 PM »

A ball will not flare over the thumbhole from a drilling standpoint just because of layout (balls flare AWAY from the thumb and towards the fingers with normal layouts). This is all due to release flaws (getting more forward lift without enough lift from turning the wrist or not staying behind the ball long enough).

As long as you are getting some flare out of the ball, the ball should be off the thumb in a few rotations.

The other problem is that drillers will not check to see if you are a full roller a lot anymore, but just drill for a normal 3/4 release. Chances are that if you are rolling over your thumb, you probably have a full roller or close to type release.
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stanski

Edited on 5/1/2005 10:17 PM

Matt Fortney · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2005, 10:49:05 PM »

i'll describe to you my track if it helps...i'm about 1 or 1 1/2" from the fingers, and the first ring of flare is about 1/8" into the thumb...

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--- diameter of thumb..
\\\- track

i don't think i'm a full roller, b/c i've never tracked between the thumb and fingers, and the balls drilled fully roller that i've thrown have thumped the entire way down, but maybe.

my release has always been pretty shaky as far as, i don't stay behind it quite long enough. i've got plenty of rotation, my axis tilt is about 90*. is there any wrist device or anything i can try that might help me stay behind it longer, b/c a habbit that started when you were 6 needs a little bit of help to cure lol. lmk. thanks.

stanski · « **Reply #3 on:** May 02, 2005, 07:31:33 PM »

quote:
i'll describe to you my track if it helps...i'm about 1 or 1 1/2" from the fingers, and the first ring of flare is about 1/8" into the thumb...

\
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--- diameter of thumb..
\\\- track

i don't think i'm a full roller, b/c i've never tracked between the thumb and fingers, and the balls drilled fully roller that i've thrown have thumped the entire way down, but maybe.

my release has always been pretty shaky as far as, i don't stay behind it quite long enough. i've got plenty of rotation, my axis tilt is about 90*. is there any wrist device or anything i can try that might help me stay behind it longer, b/c a habbit that started when you were 6 needs a little bit of help to cure lol. lmk. thanks.

Most wrist devices i've found will not help you stay behind longer but actually make you turn sooner, so thats not an option. It sounds like your not a full roller if its only the first 1/8th of an inch of the thumb.

What you might want to do is a "ring finger lead" release (sorry to who i'm stealing this from). What it involves is "leading" or pushing with the ring finger towards your target as long as possible. This will help to teach you to stay behind it longer (hopefully).
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stanski

Matt Fortney · « **Reply #4 on:** May 03, 2005, 11:47:39 PM »

i was told by my driller that more emphasis on my ring finger would help, b/c it's that finger that helps create the most side turn, which i am lacking.

after he told me this, and after looking through a few profiles on here, i noticed something a little strange. my ring finger is only about 1/16 of an inch higher than my middle. it's always been comfortable, but my question is this: if i dropped my middle finger down a little more, so that it was maybe 1/8" or 3/16" lower than my ring, would that help? just curious.

Edited on 5/3/2005 11:41 PM

stanski · « **Reply #5 on:** May 03, 2005, 11:56:11 PM »

quote:
i was told by my driller that more emphasis on my ring finger would help, b/c it's that finger that helps create the most side turn, which i am lacking.

after he told me this, and after looking through a few profiles on here, i noticed something a little strange. my ring finger is only about 1/16 of an inch higher than my middle. it's always been comfortable, but my question is this: if i dropped my middle finger down a little more, so that it was maybe 1/8" or 3/16" lower than my ring, would that help? just curious.

Edited on 5/3/2005 11:41 PM

Instead of doing that, I would think about changing pitches around slightly. I would try a little bit of reverse so you don't "hit up" on the ball so much and that when you do, the ball is coming off earlier so that you can get a much cleaner release. Talk to your driller of course, as I am only going on personal experience based on what helped in my game.
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stanski

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #6 on:** May 04, 2005, 07:00:25 AM »

it's all in the release.......I too am a high tracker and if I roll too early, I come really close to both fingers and thumb.....
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JEFF
"Chance to squint at a sky so blue that it hurts your eyes just to look at it."

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #7 on:** May 04, 2005, 07:48:38 AM »

About a year ago I had virtually no tilt. I changed the pitch from 1/8 reverse in my ring finger to 1/4 foward. This helped keep my ring finger in the ball longer and helped me create much more tilt. In order to do this I had to shorten my span a bit because the forward pitch will make the ring finger span feel a little longer.

-EX-

stanski · « **Reply #8 on:** May 04, 2005, 08:17:53 PM »

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About a year ago I had virtually no tilt. I changed the pitch from 1/8 reverse in my ring finger to 1/4 foward. This helped keep my ring finger in the ball longer and helped me create much more tilt. In order to do this I had to shorten my span a bit because the forward pitch will make the ring finger span feel a little longer.

-EX-

The problem had when i tried that is that i hung up worse and didn't get any power from the side rotation at all. This is probably why putting reverse in worked for my game.
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stanski

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