win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: Conventional grips and deep finger holes into high end cores.  (Read 4263 times)

LuckyLefty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17348
Conventional grips and deep finger holes into high end cores.
« on: January 14, 2016, 11:25:05 PM »
SO....a guy in my house buys high end balls and drills them conventional grip.  Maybe standard but his fingers are drilled 3 to 3 1/2 inches deep.  Thumb at least 3.

I can see how this would make no difference on old pancake core but how do you think it effects a high end core like say....a Marvel?  I note lots of dense dark core material has been removed in a couple of his high balls for sale with these deep holes.

I have purchased one of his in the past but it seems weaker than other's I have seen of a similar ball, ie maybe this has been caused by the large amount of high density core drilled out near the fingers versus a similarly drilled fingertip with their much shallower holes?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Regards,

Luckylefty
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 08:13:04 AM by LuckyLefty »
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

 

kotm

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
Re: Conventional grips and deep finger holes into high end cores.
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 05:19:57 PM »
Pin above finger drillings will usually lose a little differential, but gain intermediate, which helps the ball transition quicker.  In pin down layouts, the loss of diff is a little more drastic, so the smoothing is more noticeable.

This is a good read by Steve Freshour modeling a pin up layout...

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Effects_of_Drilling_Finger_Holes_Deeper
Good Luck & Good Bowling!

Ron Machniak
www.Precisionbowlingproshop.com

BallReviews-Removed0385

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Re: Conventional grips and deep finger holes into high end cores.
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 06:20:47 PM »
Lefty,

I would estimate that a bunch of core would need to be removed before any drop in performance could be measurable AND attributed to that one thing only.

Maybe the ball lost performance because it was... old...

« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 06:23:22 PM by notclay »

LuckyLefty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17348
Re: Conventional grips and deep finger holes into high end cores.
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 08:57:57 PM »
KOTM,

That table is EXACTLY what I was looking for.

As always NotClay thanks for the helpful comments.  The ball is not old but I was having slight release problems and the pearls for me in this house need to track a little bit for me!

I now understand the effect of the deep fingers.  Acceptable!

Regards,

Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

JustRico

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2652
Re: Conventional grips and deep finger holes into high end cores.
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 09:12:08 PM »
The bowling ball does not know what grip is drilled into...it is simple...size of hole primarily and depth in what portion of the core
Dave Guidon had a mitt...his finger holes were close to 15/16" and his thumb was in the 1 1/8"...fingertip
Co-author of BowlTec's END GAMES ~ A Bowler's COMPLETE Guide to Bowling; Head Games ~ the MENTAL approach to bowling (and sports) & (r)eVolve
...where knowledge creates striking results...
BowlTEc on facebook...www.iBowlTec.com