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strikealot

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dual angle drilling..
« on: December 18, 2007, 04:52:00 AM »
im fairly experienced with drilling a ball, layouts, etc..but what is the second angle in the dual angle drilling technique...
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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2007, 01:02:56 PM »
thanks for the replies..
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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 10:23:56 AM »
ok i have done my research and tried laying a couple balls out with this technique...if i use a large drilling angle(65-85)and smaller angle to the VAL(25-35) i end up with the fingers almost even with or on cg depending on the pin to pap distance i use(longer pin to pap fingers on on cg and shorter pin to pap are away from but almost even with cg) i would end up with alot of finger wt..

when i use a larger angle to the VAL the center of the grip is more where it is suppose to be..

just seems hard to manipulate where the pin ends up on ball laying it out like this..not in regards to pin to pap distance but whether  the pin is going to be up or down...

any ideas on if im doing something wrong would be appreciated..

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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2007, 03:28:17 PM »
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just seems hard to manipulate where the pin ends up on ball laying it out like this..not in regards to pin to pap distance but whether the pin is going to be up or down...




That's why if your going to use this idea of laying out balls, you will have to familiarize yourself with how much angle is needed for a certain pin heights in relation to grip center.
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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2007, 03:48:22 PM »
Mo is a very smart man, but I find it hard to believe this drilling technique makes much difference to anyone other than the top professionals because league conditions are soft and most bowlers can't repeat shots well enough to see the difference between a 20 degree and a 70 degree layout anyway.
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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2007, 04:52:25 PM »
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Mo is a very smart man, but I find it hard to believe this drilling technique makes much difference to anyone other than the top professionals because league conditions are soft and most bowlers can't repeat shots well enough to see the difference between a 20 degree and a 70 degree layout anyway.
Very few things really make that big of a difference on a regular league house shot.  My ball driller personally loves the dual angle system just because he says for him it's quicker and easier to lay out a ball and get the exact reaction he wants.  It's worked on the one ball I've had drilled with that method, so I can't disagree.

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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2007, 04:56:20 PM »
With the Dual Angle Layout technique, you do not manipulate the pin at all. The pin just falls into place because of the 2 angles and pin to pap distance. With this layout technique, the only thing needed to be worried about is the 2 angles and pin to pap distance. The first angle controls the front part of the lane, second angle the back part. And the pin to pap controls flare potential.

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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2007, 05:06:16 PM »
i can notice a difference in fine tuning a ball, i am not a top pro but can hold my own with anyone...this is more or less for understanding different ideas and techniques, i enjoy learning and applying different ideas...dynojoe thats the info i need..it makes more sense now..

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Re: dual angle drilling..
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2007, 07:31:51 PM »
strikealot, your welcome. glad i could help.