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JJ

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Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« on: February 23, 2013, 07:58:39 PM »
I talked to Mo Pinnell and he suggested for my speed and revs (15mph/285 Revs,high track) that I shoul use a 55x3x25 degree system. Could some one tell me what that translates to Storms system?

I bought a Vivid and according to Storms drilling instructions the best drill for a stroker with medium speed is a 3 1/2 x 5 x 3 in pin buffer. Thanks in advance.
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Rightycomplex

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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 08:09:28 PM »
It is easy to do. Simply, map out the layout that Mo suggested the measure, pin to PAP, PSA to PAP, and pin buffer. The layout storm suggested sounds close to a label. Mo layout is going to be a bit more aggressive.
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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 09:17:52 PM »
Here's the harder way to convert:

http://forum.bowlingchat.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7376

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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 11:53:47 PM »
55 x 3" x 25 converts to 3" x 5.1272" x 1.182" in Storm-speak (3" pin to PAP, 5.1272" PSA to PAP, and 1.182" pin buffer (pin to VAL))
Feel free to round to 3" x 5 1/8" x 1 1/8" ;)
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 11:59:20 PM by jbungard »

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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2013, 10:13:35 PM »
Thanks for the help guys.
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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2013, 11:14:38 PM »
It's not this complicated people....I can assure you that the tolerance between 300 and 180 is not drilling to .0223 inches.

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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 11:30:28 PM »
Im curious how long storm will stick with there setup system for layouts. The dual angle is simple and widely used. Your doing the same thing either way it just seems a bit odd. I guess every one wants their own unique stamp on things.
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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2013, 08:09:47 AM »
Im curious how long storm will stick with there setup system for layouts. The dual angle is simple and widely used. Your doing the same thing either way it just seems a bit odd. I guess every one wants their own unique stamp on things.

Just my guess here but my gut says that since Kloempken(sp?) was using the pin buffer system way back when, combined with Mo now working for Brunswick which is a competitor, I'll be surprised if they ever do switch to dual angle. As long as the end result is the same, who cares how you get there and what terminology you use?
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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2013, 04:22:15 PM »
True. It appears to be metric versus standard.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Degree system compared to Storms/ Drilling Gurus
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2013, 11:24:18 PM »
To me dual angles are easier to do, quicker, and more defined. I can map out 3 balls using DA in the time it takes to use the storm system. It got so bad that I took some time and mapped out the Storm sheet to DA so I wouldnt have to continue to draw arcs.
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