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Did driller screw up?
« on: November 29, 2003, 07:39:33 AM »
Buddy of mine just bought an Igniter off me & had it plugged & redrilled (I'm righty he's lefty).  He told the guy at the shop to drill it to go real long & still have a strong move on the backend - something I was sure this ball was designed to do.  Ball was drilled with the pin above & to the left of ring finger, cg was in center of span, but stacked under the pin.  Ball was then polished to 1200.

The reaction I saw tonite was nothing like expected.  The ball had to be sent out over 3rd arrow to the 2 board & it screamed back across the headpin!  So much for down & in like the ball was supposed to do.  It easily covered more boards than my Fuze Detonator!

Did the proshop drill this ball wrong or is the Igniter really that strong of a ball?
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Re: Did driller screw up?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2003, 10:58:09 PM »
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He told the guy at the shop to drill it to go real long & still have a strong move on the backend


If this is what your friend told him to do then he did it  Pro shop operator drilled it stacked leverage not sure of the final lay out but sounds like it.  Strong drilling.  If your friend was looking for down and in...should have had it laid out pin under ring finger CG in mid grip.  More of a sheen finish would lope somewhat down lane for most lefties and make straomger move at back end.  

Sometimes you really have to explain what you want in specifics.  Better yet pro shop guy should have watched your friend roll some balls.

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Re: Did driller screw up?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2003, 07:41:43 AM »
The ball is vaguely, generally drilled to go long with a maximized hook. The 1200 grit polish will help, with delayed hook and less overall grip than the standard cover is. The pin being above the fingers will add length vs a pin at or under the fingers. It all depends on where his PAP is, to be more specific. I might have suggested a 90-105 degree drilling if your friend wanted length with less backend. You can't maximize length AND backend, by drilling alone. The more length you "drill" into a given ball, the less backend you drill into it.  It's all a balancing act. Under the circumstances of your request, I think the driller did a pretty good "balancing act".

A driller cannot MAKE the ball go "down the boards" and "hook a lot" at the backend. The bowler has to use the right ball on the right lane condition with the right release to do that.

The Igniter is a medium strong pearl designed for use on medium light to medium oil patterns. Some balls get more designed-in length and backend.
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Re: Did driller screw up?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2003, 07:59:02 AM »
So for the most part the ball is right, it's my buddy that's screwed!!

It would likely do what he wanted if he didn't put 1000 revs on the ball.
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Re: Did driller screw up?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2003, 09:35:48 PM »
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So for the most part the ball is right, it's my buddy that's screwed!!

It would likely do what he wanted if he didn't put 1000 revs on the ball.
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I think a SlayR or a Power Groove Reactive would go longer and hook less in the backend than an Igniter. My Ingiter, drilled 1:30-ish, does not go very long except on medium + oil. The SlayR goes VERY long with most "normal" or average drillings and needs definite dry to make the turn. It probaby goes longer than even Power Groove reactives, but I have not seen or done direct comparisons.

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