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Ric Clint

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Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« on: May 23, 2003, 06:12:53 AM »
If I had 2 different Columbia WOW's... I'm wanting to keep one dull for Heavy Oil and polish the other one for Medium Oil.

1.) the first one has a 2.5" pin and is drilled with the PIN and CG stacked under the ring finger (both are kicked out 1" from the centerline) with a weight hole in the positive quadrant.

2.) the second one has a 3" pin and is drilled with the PIN kicked out 1.5" from the ring finger and the CG kicked 1.5" from the centerline (pin to cg is sort of like 1:00) with no weight hole.


Which one would would I keep dull and which one would I polish??? Basically, which one would be the biggest hooker, as I would make this one dull for the soupy oil?


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Ric Clint

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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2003, 10:35:55 PM »
King -

I thought the opposite.

I figured ball #1 would start up earlier and be great for oil, where as the ball #2 is almost drilled like a 1:00 label leverage drilling (which should promote more length than ball #1)???

Am I backward's with my thinking?




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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2003, 10:57:17 PM »
Both of these layouts will produce almost equal hook abilities, however the ball that has the pin below the finger will produce much earlier revs and will check up in the mid lane, so polishing this ball would allow for a little later break point which will be beneficial on longer wet/ dry layouts, or medium fresh back ends, carry down may prove a bit pesky because of the later grab point on the lane. You want your ball to rev early on heavy oil especially when trying to open up the lane as much as possible.

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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2003, 06:43:31 AM »
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Both of these layouts will produce almost equal hook abilities, however the ball that has the pin below the finger will produce much earlier revs and will check up in the mid lane, so polishing this ball would allow for a little later break point which will be beneficial on longer wet/ dry layouts, or medium fresh back ends, carry down may prove a bit pesky because of the later grab point on the lane. You want your ball to rev early on heavy oil especially when trying to open up the lane as much as possible.

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I don't understand your logic.
If the first drilling has the pin only 1" from his grip center, wouldn't that make it about 5" from his PAP, while the other pin is almost leverage for Ric, around 3-3.5" from his PAP? Whether or not the pin is under the bridge, sholdn't the 5" pin flare a lot less than the leverage positioned pin, and thus go longer with less backend? I am honestly confused.
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Ric Clint

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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2003, 11:55:26 PM »
So it sounds like most of you are saying that I should polish ball #1. The 1st WOW does have the pin only 1" from my centerline, and it is about 5" from my PAP, while the other WOW's pin is almost leverage for me, around 3-3.5" from my PAP. My PAP is 5 1/2" over, by 3/4" to 1" up.

And it seems that you guys are saying, that eventhough, the pin is UNDER the ring finger on the 1st WOW, that this ball should still go longer with less backend??? Where as I thought that this ball should start up the earliest.

Am I not correct?

And I understand what you are saying KOTM, but I've just always heard that Pin under fingers help get the ball rolling early.


So, I guess I need to polish ball #1 (with the PIN under the ring) and sand the ball #2 (with the PIN out 1.5" from the ring finger).



Thanks!



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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2003, 04:13:00 AM »
Polish both.  Find which is best for you, then take the other and sand it back to "factory finish."

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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2003, 07:21:30 AM »
As far as drilling goes, the pin to PAP distance is the most important criteria.  The WOW with the pin near the leverage position will hook and flare the most, so it should be left duller and used for more oil.

Putting the pin below the finger line will make the ball roll earlier than having the pin above the fingers, but pin to PAP is much more important.
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Ric Clint

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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2003, 11:49:47 PM »
So from what I understand, the 1st WOW would be best for Medium/Heavy Oil with CLEAN backends and the 2nd WOW would be best for Medium/Heavy Oil with CARRYDOWN.

I think I'm gonna keep the 1st one sanded to about 800 grit and, instead of polishing the 2nd one, I'm just gonna sand it "up" to a higher grit like 1500 or 2000 so that it will still get thru the heads and then cut thru the Carrydown.


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Re: Difference between these 2 drillings on the same ball?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2003, 08:04:58 PM »
You're right. I think I need to leave the first one lightly polished for when the backends are dry, and then keep the 2nd one sanded to about 800-1200 for when there is some Carrydown and the first one quits hooking up or is coming behind the headpin.


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