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JessN16

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Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« on: March 20, 2010, 03:22:18 PM »
Probably not, but I'll claim it until someone says something.

Been having trouble hanging up in the ball. Didn't matter how I ovaled the thumb or what size pilot hole I used or how much bevel I used. I was hanging right at the top of the thumbhole (base of the thumb).

So I have one ball in the arsenal that I got off a BallReviews member that, just by sheer luck, I didn't have to plug and redrill. His span was less than 1/16 longer than mine. The only issue was I had to re-pilot his thumbhole with something larger. Kind of hard to explain what affect this had but instead of having a smooth bevel, the new thumbhole had bevel from the edges, then turned directly downward into the ball. It created, not a sharp edge, but a definite edge around the top of the new pilot.

And my thumb liked it. Felt good, no more hangups. It's the only  ball I can use if my hand has swollen for any reason.

I've been trying to recreate this, and I just found out how. I start with my usual pilot hole (15/16), then oval and shape the thumbhole by hand with an array of files. I then drill a vent hole. Last thing I do is put it back on the press, insert a 1 1/8-inch drill bit, and drill down into the thumbhole about 1/8 of an inch. This gives the thumbhole an inner lip.

Then I take the bevel sander and sand the top of the thumbhole for a couple of seconds using an Abranet cross. What happens is, the Abranet cross can't mistakenly ream out the pilot, because the lip causes it to ride around the rim of the inner lip somewhat. At the same time, the sander takes the hard edge off.

What you're left with is a pilot hole that is not cone-shaped, but the pilot now doesn't fit around the entire length of my thumb. The top 1/8 inch is now 1 1/8 inch diameter instead of 15/16 ovaled, creating a gap that breaks the friction, promotes an early release and no more hang at the top of the hole/base of the thumb.

Comfort is up, scores are up, confidence is up. Looks a little weird and can feel a bit strange on the bench, but it works great in practice. Is the name "Two-Stage Bevel" taken?

Jess

 

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 11:39:20 PM »
Sounds entirely logical, and maybe you should register the name and technique.
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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 12:02:14 AM »
Can you post a picture of what it looks like finished?

JessN16

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 12:10:54 AM »
quote:
Sounds entirely logical, and maybe you should register the name and technique.
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lol...thanks, but I'll let someone else deal with the patent office.

TDC, I tried shooting a couple but it's hard to see what's going on in the shots. I'll take another ball out tomorrow and photograph the entire process and put those up. It will at least let you see the steps.

Jess

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 12:24:33 AM »
Thanks. That would be interesting to see!

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 07:31:36 AM »
hmmmm very interesting!

its just like my driller says, "there is no wrong way in bowling. do whatever works for you."
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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 08:06:22 AM »
I''ve been doing this for a while now. My thumb is 57/64, ovalled @55* to 1 1/32, then I center a 1 1/32 bit over the hole and drill down about 1/4". I have a large fleshy area at the base of my thumb and this seems to work well.

Edited on 3/21/2010 8:06 AM

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 08:15:56 AM »
One of our Pro Shop operators has been doing that to his balls and some of his customers for the last 15 years.  In fact, he uses 4 different drill bit sizes to drill his own thumb hole because his thumb is so tapered....(fat at the base of the thumb and much thinner by the thumb nail).

You are correct......it is great way to develop a faster release if you have hang-up issues.
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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 12:02:17 AM »
Thanks for the responses. Good to know I'm on the right track. And it's absolutely no surprise that this has already been done before...lol

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 01:39:03 AM »
Step-by-step article on how I did it, plus pics: http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php/TwoStageBevel

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 11:05:11 AM »
Deadbait has mentioned several times that he uses a similar technique.  He uses a 1 3/8" bit, centers it on the thumb hole and presses down to the depth he wants the bevel to be.  I haven't tried it yet, but plan to, it would be easy to do when drilling the hole simply change out the bit and the hole would already be centered.  You would have to do your ovaling and other shaping after doing that, of course.  I'm also going to try using the 1 3/8" bit to trim down my slugs, should leave the slug trimmed even with the top of the hole (if I'm careful with the pitches and how far down to press it), then drill the hole to the size desired and the bevel will already be in place.  --  JohnP

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Re: Well, maybe I just developed a new beveling technique...
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 02:19:47 PM »
I pretty much do the same thing and my driller always has that why expression when I do. When I put a thumb slug/insert in a ball I set in below the surface of the ball on the inside and just below flush on the outside. I then round it in with a half round jewelers file - finish with appropriately finer sandpaper/crocus cloth. Front of thumb doesn''t hang, and thumb clears back and side of hole cleanly.

I never seemed to have access to a drill press when I did this so got used to using the file. I am pretty sure the drill press would give more repeatable results.

Heck, if you take a close look at your thumb you will see that the "meat" at the top is "much larger" in diameter than the rest of it.

Edited on 3/22/2010 2:23 PM