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erh300

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Down Measurement For PAP
« on: November 13, 2007, 06:11:01 AM »
How many here have a down measurement in their pap coordinates (i.e. 5" over by 1/2" down)? Is there a difference, generally speaking, in ball motion between an up measurement and a down measurement? Thanks for the help.
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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 03:48:24 PM »
here! (5" over by 4/5" down) I throw it 2 handed though and don't know about the exact effects on ball motion. Actually all I know is it inverts your track.
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shelley

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 03:50:48 PM »
4/5"?  Who measures in fifths of an inch?  

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Maldoror

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2007, 03:58:22 PM »
haha. good question! only guys from overseas who convert the number I assume.
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JohnP

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 09:30:39 PM »
mab -- You've got it backwards, track closer to the fingers than to the thumb is a down vertical component.  --  JohnP
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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 06:55:53 AM »
Hey, sorry for the Mis-Information Dislexia is setting in John P is right I should have proofed my post more carefully. Thanks for saying something. I deleted it as to not cause any further confusion or harm. Lesson learned.
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scotts33

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2007, 06:59:23 AM »
down=inverted track

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2007, 07:14:51 AM »
dont forget the drill pattern on the ball can influence your track...not sure what you guys are throwing, but if the pin is below fingers and its a higher performance ball, it will tend to drag the axis down. You should only look for your axis on a low flare ball(plastic is best). Just wanted to trow that out there so no one gets the next ball drilled with wrong pap.
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EboKnight

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2007, 10:44:48 PM »
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dont forget the drill pattern on the ball can influence your track...not sure what you guys are throwing, but if the pin is below fingers and its a higher performance ball, it will tend to drag the axis down. You should only look for your axis on a low flare ball(plastic is best). Just wanted to trow that out there so no one gets the next ball drilled with wrong pap.


I've had the same problems with ASYM equipment and PAP location.... good call.
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JohnP

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Re: Down Measurement For PAP
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 10:22:06 AM »
It is extremely difficult to get an accurate PAP location for a customer with high revs who is using a ball with an aggressive core.  The ball begins flaring before it ever hits the lane if he lifts it out.  Even if he lays it down smooth, you have to watch the tape in the first 5 ft.  For some reason it seems the first couple of flare rings don't show up.  Maybe the oil is burned off the lanes in the laydown area, I don't know.  But when I'm dealing with this type customer, I locate the first rings I can see, then mentally add one or two more when setting my Armadillo.  That usually comes out about right.  The initial track ring, and thus the PAP, is strictly dependent on the release, but the flare will throw you off if you're not very careful.  --  JohnP
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