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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: Aloarjr810 on November 17, 2010, 03:01:42 AM
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In another forum the term "short Pin" was used.
I said short pin or Long pin refers to Pin to CG distance (aka: Pin In/Pin Out) and is the more common usage.
The other say''s thats how buyers refer to the balls. but drillers use the terms short pin or Long pin to mean the pin to pap distance.
whats the standard use around for every one.
Edited on 11/17/2010 12:12 PM
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That's pin to cg for me!
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short pin/long pin to me is pin to cg....some 2nd's are called long pins (meaning 4-5+ out.)
"usually" pin to PAP is associated with a measurement....IMHO.
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Pin to cg for me.
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I've always understood the terms short pin and long pin to have been to mean the pin distance from the CG on an un-drilled ball.
If it is otherwise, as it might be on a drilled ball, it usually comes with a qualifier, such as: "Is this a long pin to pap drilling"?
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Short pin is a ball with a 0-2" distance between pin and CG. Long pins are 3" and up. The different terminology results from the fact that a short pin usually has the pin ending up under the fingers, while a long pin offers you a pin above the fingers (in both cases CG in the palm area for legal static weights) and limits drilling options. If you wnat a certain reaction, a longer pin distance is just the better basis to work with.
I think the terms were established when the first cores with higher differentials were introduced. In the era of the urethane Hammers and pancake cores, pin distances used to be in the 0-2" range, and label layouts very common.
The longer pins and more powerful cores (with stronger internal weight shifts, depending on the core's placement upon pouring) offered much more drilling options, hence the term.
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