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qstick777

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Drilling for a blem
« on: August 19, 2004, 03:23:34 PM »
I just bought a red urethane Faball Hammer.  Its a "second" with the following specs: 14lb 13 3/4 oz; top wgt 3 5/8.

It looks like the CG (I guess that is the "cross hair" marking) is right next to the pin.  This definately looks different than my other balls (Power Groove, Savage Flip, BA Patriot, and Vendetta).

What is the best way to get this drilled?  I don't need anything too aggressive, just a nice smooth arc (I'm low to avg speed and revs).

What effect does the distance between the CG and pin have on ball reaction?

Thanks in advance for the help.

 

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 11:38:03 PM »
may be you can put pin and cg stacked under ring and drill the finger hole deep back to legal finger weight.



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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2004, 11:51:13 PM »
A friend of mine has a blem like this, she has her ball drilled with the pin on the right side of the palm, but in the middle, like not higher or lower then grip center. This is a good control/arc drilling if you dont track real high.
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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 12:03:25 PM »
qstick777 -- The Red Hammer was one of the early two piece core balls, and the core is very mild (maybe one inch of flare potential).  Don't worry too much about pin placement, drill it with the cg near the grip center and the pin at roughly 1:30 from the cg.  You're gonna like it.  --  JohnP

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 12:04:33 PM »
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What effect does the distance between the CG and pin have on ball reaction?


For a current red urethane Hammer the pin means next to nothing.  Its a pancake weightblock.

Drill it like any other 3-piece ball.  

Since Hammer's website doesn't show 3 piece instructions, here's Ebonite's
http://www.ebonite.com/techcenter/drilling_instructions.php?title=3-piece
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qstick777

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 03:14:12 PM »
Thanks for all the responses!  I will probably get it drilled this weekend.  Not sure if the pro shop will give me any grief, so I thought I'd get some recommendations before I go.  Just to clarify, its one of the original red Hammers from Faball.  I was hoping it was only a blem due to the weight.  I started bowling in April/May (finger tip) with 15lb but I've started having pains in my arm, so I was hoping a slight drop to 14.5 might help (although I realize its probably either my release or just building of the muscles).  Besides, I've heard good things about the original Hammers and thought I'd give it a try!

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 04:17:24 PM »
Constantine -- Think you're wrong about the Red Hammer being three piece.  Here's something I copied off information about the Red Hammer:

"Red Hammer one of the original hard hitters. This high quality ball pioneered two piece urethane bowling balls and started the Hammer WINNING Tradition. Ideal for oily lanes. The Red Hammer hooks more than the Black Hammer."

qstick777 -- I'm guessing that the blem is something cosmetic.  Manufacturers were a lot pickier about the ball's appearance in the 80's than they are now.  --  JohnP

qstick777

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2004, 12:15:44 AM »
Just thought I'd give everybody an update:

Had the ball drilled on Saturday.  They drilled it just as many suggested (CG in the right of the palm).  Bowled 3 games Saturday, 4 on Sunday, and leagues on Monday).

I average 151 in leagues.  My worst game was 123 (practicing 7 and 10 pins on first ball), best game was 200.  Other games were 160's to 190's.  

Ball has nice smooth arc, and feels easier to control.

Thanks for all the responses and advice!

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2004, 05:16:19 PM »
MikeP -- Find something on the internet to confirm that.  --  JohnP

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2004, 05:52:18 PM »
The new Ebonite owned Hammer is a 3 piece ball.

Here's the proof.

http://bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1978

or

http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=18&BallID=449

The old Faball owed urethane Hammer was a two piece ball.

http://bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=288

Edited on 8/24/2004 5:47 PM
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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2004, 06:03:19 PM »
So the question remains --

Is this the remake by the current Hammer, owned by Ebonite
OR
Is this an original Red Pearl Hammer made by Faball in the 1980s??

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qstick777

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2004, 06:36:28 PM »
I put this in an earlier post, but I realize it probably wasn't the best formatted and easy to read:

Just to clarify, its one of the original red Hammers from Faball.

Picked it up off of eBay from Bowlmart/bowling.com.  They seem to be the only place that still has undrilled originals.  I could've gotten a non-blem, but I really wanted to try the 1/2 lb.

Oh, and its non-pearl, just the sanded red urethane - the one that looks more pink than red - at least until it picks up the oil

Edited on 8/24/2004 6:31 PM

charlest

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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2004, 07:33:40 PM »
Ok, then.
Many of this original ball had smaller pin-CG distances, especially the ones that are now available to us, the general public. As per usual for dynamic cores, it will go thru the skid/hook/roll cycle much quicker than the 2-4" pin-CG distances. So, its flare will be less and its hook will be less.

DON't FORGET that urethanes (both pearl and solid) hook much earlier under normal circumstances than resins (pearl or solid) and polyester balls do!!!

If you need a dry lanes ball, this ball (dull, solid urethane) should be highly polished.

If you need a control ball for EXTREME wet/drys and EXTREME over/under reactions, this is a safe, if not particularly strong, or hard hitting, alternative. (unless you have a very high rev release.)

If you need a ball from yester-year, then this is as good as any.

However, that said and done, I must personally believe there are better alternatives, among current modern balls.
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Re: Drilling for a blem
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2004, 10:38:32 PM »
Constantine -- Agreed.  I assumed from his saying it was a Faball Hammer that it was the original.

qstick777 -- Here's a site that has a fairly good selection of the original Faball Hammers for $49.95.  They could be the same folks that are selling them on e-Bay.  --  JohnP

http://www.bowlingball.com/cgi-bin/store/store.pl?Function=Search&keywords=Faball%20Hammer