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legend4life95

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What kind of drillings are these??
« on: October 16, 2004, 04:33:09 AM »
I know absolutly nothing about drillings and what layouts give what reaction. Here are a couple of my favorite reacting balls and the pin on each are pretty much in the same area on both. Can someone tell me what layout this is and what the reaction is suppose to be? Thanks


http://http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjA0ODQyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjA0ODQ1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

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legend4life95

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2004, 12:36:36 PM »
Oh and you can't see in the pics but, they both have a small weight hole.


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legend4life95

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2004, 02:28:11 PM »
Anybody??
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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2004, 02:41:22 PM »
What kind of balls are they?
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J_Mac

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 02:51:10 PM »
One is a columbia gold quake
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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2004, 02:52:09 PM »
Unless we know your PAP (positive axis point), it's just a guess.  If you have a normal track (within an inch or so of your thumb and fingers), it's probably close to max leverage.  You should get medium length and a sharp backend provided you are throwing the ball on the correct conditions.  Putting the pin at the leverage point (3 3/8" from your PAP) gives you the maximum flare potential.  Stacking the cg below helps provide a sharp breakpoint.

How to find your PAP: http://www.ebonite.com/techcenter/positiveaxispt.php

How to find the PAP is in the middle of the page, but the entire thing is worth reading.
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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2004, 03:19:09 PM »
skid, hook and both will go long before doing it.
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legend4life95

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2004, 03:23:36 PM »
I should have mentioned this in the post but, neither of these are drilled for my hand. I don't know my PAP. I throw thumbless and most of the time when I buy a used ball..I just change the finger inserts and start bowling. I just like the reaction that I get from both these balls. They give me good length and have a sharp strong backend.


EDIT: Oh yeah, the Track ball is a T.K.O. Triton and the columbia is a Gold Pearl Quake Ceramicore

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2004, 07:11:43 PM »
thumbless = wrong.


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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2004, 07:41:05 PM »
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thumbless = wrong.


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T-GOD

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2004, 09:13:06 PM »
The first one is definitely a 1:30 label drilling. Depending if he has a normal track, it'll be close to label leverage.

The second one is also close to a 1:30 layout, but with a little label shift, placing the pin roughly in the leverage position. =:^D

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legend4life95

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2004, 12:18:53 AM »
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thumbless = wrong.


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I knew that was coming soon or later. I have heard it a 1000 times and have been told that I will never be able to average 200 or better. That is simply why I will continue to bowl this way. I have only been bowling since February of this year and was in a mixed doubles league that ran 15 weeks 3 games a night and ended with a 191 average. Now I am in a wednesday night gamblers league that runs 36 weeks. I'm about 6 weeks into it and this league is not a easy shot. I am still averaging about 186 right now. I WILL prove the people wrong that told me I will never average 200 no thumbing.
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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2004, 04:21:53 PM »
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The first one is definitely a 1:30 label drilling. Depending if he has a normal track, it'll be close to label leverage.

The second one is also close to a 1:30 layout, but with a little label shift, placing the pin roughly in the leverage position. =:^D

Edited on 10/16/2004 9:04 PM


I thought I saw a punch mark just right of the label.  Maybe it's just a nick in the ball or the flash.  That's what I was basing the stacked leverage on.  If the punch mark (cg) is in the middle of the label somewhere, it's somewhere around label leverage as T-GOD says.

The second also depends on where the cg is exactly.  It's probably right in between stacked and a true 1:30, but it's hard to tell.  I should have looked a little harder before answering.
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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2004, 05:57:30 PM »
ya i agree with you strider, one of them looks stacked leverage, the other looks a little closer to label leverage. The punch mark doesnt look to be closer to the center of the grip, but maybe i'm just seeing things...
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legend4life95

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Re: What kind of drillings are these??
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2004, 10:47:12 PM »
On the Track ball, I was thinking that the cg was the little bowling ball in the midle of the label logo. There is no other dot or mark anywhere on the ball. As for the columbia ball...I have no clue where the cg may be.
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