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backupball

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Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« on: December 02, 2004, 12:04:27 PM »
Need some help on suggested ball types and layouts for conditions that are extremely wet/dry.  I'm talking like 100+ units in the middle and ZERO on the outside (many centers get away with this condition in my area because the local ABC reps TELL them when they are coming to check the lanes and the house then puts out a compliant shot).

My problems on this condition:
1. Play in the dry, ball hooks at my toes.
2. Play in the oil, ball never hooks.
3. Try to play around the oil line, OK if perfect shot, bucket on a tug, double nutz on a miss right.

My specs:
- fairly straight player
- approx 250 RPM
- minimal axis tilt
- have different releases for axis rotation
- avg ball speed around 16 mph

Any ideas greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance!

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jimensminger

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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2004, 08:41:35 AM »
I had recent success with these balls and drills. Both of these are pretty agressive. First is a Thing Lives, 2 1/2 inch pin, pin under the ring, cg on the mid line about 3/4" left of center. Ball surface was box condition then hand scuffed with a green scotch bright pad. I used this ball at the recent Sr High Roller to qualify and in match play on very wet/dry conditions. With the track fried from 18 right, I could play the ball from 25 to 14 at about 42', and not get a jerky reaction, a dullish ball will read the dry, and arc rather than flip off the dry, for me the ball actually burns off some energy when it corners, and rolls through then pins as opposed to skid/flippy...Another ball that I like is my Au79,...I use this one on a THS when they flood the middles, and the dry line is screaming. It's drilled pin over the middle finger, cg under the ring just above the midline,pap hole to about 1/4oz sw, about a 6 x 4, This ball come as a shiny pearl with a nice big flip block,...I wet sanded the surface with 400, then a very, very light coat of polish. The drilling lets the ball get long, and the surface mellows out the wet/dry, but still lets me play the oil line...jim
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backupball

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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2004, 10:47:30 PM »
Thanks Jim & Jabroni for your input.

Jabroni - I have a release that is pretty close to zero degrees of rotation, but it still seems to give me an over/under problem.  What I really don't understand is how so many of the people I see bowl on this condition (with different styles, releases, etc.) all have the lane!  I don't see a common thread physically, so I was wondering more about balls.  But I will work on that release some more.

Any other input is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2004, 11:12:48 PM »
Get a ball with an RG in the basement and a hook rating off the charts and play in the oil.  People make it a little too complicated sometimes, and when it gets too frustrating, just try to hit the pocket the best you can and hope they fall until you can figure out what's going on.  You may not strike every shot, but at least you'll be leaving yourself makeable spares instead of trying too hard to outsmart the condition.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2004, 11:16:19 PM »
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Get a ball with an RG in the basement and a hook rating off the charts and play in the oil.  People make it a little too complicated sometimes, and when it gets too frustrating, just try to hit the pocket the best you can and hope they fall until you can figure out what's going on.  You may not strike every shot, but at least you'll be leaving yourself makeable spares instead of trying too hard to outsmart the condition.
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Good suggestion their, too often people are not willing to play that shot. The only other option is like jabroni said. I have been having success in a wet/dry house throwing my flashpoint drilled 5 x 6, harder than i normally throw (around 16-17 on quibica) and coming around a little less than I usually do.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2004, 12:56:44 AM »
For me, i had an old elite drilled zero degree, pin on the side of the ring finger, replaced it with a slash, drilled zero. on this one, the pin is under the ring finger and the cg is stright across to the right. AWESOME on wet/dry. Rolls early enough to roll in the sludge, and no huge bounce off the dry. I have a little more hand than you (i have some vids up on the track fourm) but maybe doing the same with a dull particle.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2004, 06:13:55 AM »
That's a good drilling, and also pin axis would work too.  Exotic drillings are just crazy enough to work sometimes.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2004, 05:39:56 PM »
I have bowled some houses that have major over/under. I drilled a flashflood with the pin under the ring with cg kicked out with x-hole. Being a heavy Particle this ball it would pick up a roll in the oil and not bounce off the dry.

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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2004, 06:26:56 AM »
This may help or give somwe ideas backup.  http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?BallID=523&ManufacterID=13&ReviewID=21858

The houses that I've played carried way better near the track than in.  Therefore, I wanted to play the dry.  

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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2004, 10:48:42 AM »
Thanks everyone, lots of different stuff I can try!  Maybe one of the ball and release combos will give me what I am looking for.  I do have some equipment that is drilled similar to some of the suggestions, so I will explore those options first.  I will report back when I see what is the best option for me.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2004, 10:51:49 AM »
If its truly that bad, why not just got with urethane??? That will even it out a lot more then any reactive will.
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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2004, 11:06:14 AM »
BK25 the Visionary Centaur is very even as well is Storm's Hit line.  You can use reactive and still get a very even reatcion on backend.  Depending on layout, your technique and how you play the condition plus your abilty to make these adjustments.  Plus I do believe your carry overall will be better for the majority of bowlers.

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Re: Drilling for MEGA wet/dry
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2004, 11:15:40 AM »
A Lo-Rg drilling will work like a champ for this condition.  Ebonite and AMF300  both show several drill patterns covering this type reaction

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