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LuckyLefty

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A "length drilling"....
« on: December 28, 2006, 02:12:41 AM »
Did you see this on the show...with the "Shark" pattern (before Norm punched a hole in it in practice).

Chris Barnes demonstrated the pattern and his drilling on an Action Attack and then threw a nice shot for us on the USUAL(not altered) Shark.

He termed the drilling a "length" or "lenghtier" drilling.

I found it interesting....

Pin UNDER the middle finger  cg out in a strong position and DOWN below grip center(3 inch pin out or more) and then a down weighthole.

It reminded me of Brunswicks drilling 4E on symmetrics for a Hooking Wet Dry but with a longer pin out...

Not really my idea of a length drilling but more of a low flare drilling.

Your thoughts?  Did you see the same drilling(I do not have the show taped any more).

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 10:17:27 AM »
Chris uses often pin under ring drillings to get a controllable backend. And moste uses longer pin-pap distances so they can get the ball to turn a little more, since they have to play inside angles.
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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 10:19:30 AM »
Btw. When Chris uses that drilling, pin under ring, the pin-pap distance is 4½". And he use it on balls with lower flare, like 0.35 diff.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 10:33:12 AM »
In this case I believe the ball was pin under MIDDLE finger and the ball demonstrated was an Action Attack...higher diff.

Does a pin under middle help the ball to turn?

Did I see it correctly?

REgards,

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PS those are very good and knowledgeable sounding comments from a 17 year old(you must be from the Dallas Houston area?).
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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 10:45:42 AM »
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In this case I believe the ball was pin under MIDDLE finger and the ball demonstrated was an Action Attack...higher diff.

Does a pin under middle help the ball to turn?

Did I see it correctly?

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS those are very good and knowledgeable sounding comments from a 17 year old(you must be from the Dallas Houston area?).
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No, im not from the states. And pin under middle would be close to 6" pin-pap for Barnes.
Here is a link to an old article about barnes and the drilling he use/used.
http://www.bowlingknowledge.com/tips/tedthompson/tt200111.pdf
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sammy the sage

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 01:51:14 PM »
barne's drilling looked like a RICO drilling to me....

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2006, 02:10:51 PM »
This drilling would ignore the fronts and kick in per say on the mid's to backend's of the lane. I use this drilling on an action packed works well like this and cg is barely above and right of my thumb hole, for me it 5 1/2 pin to pap and i am not high revs by any means.

These type of drilling's work well on slicker synthetics that you are trying play inside out angles, i use a pin over left side of my middle finger Action for playing inside out also. It would be in the 6 3/4 pin to pap range for me cg right above my thumb in box finish, strong core eventually takes over on the lane friction and kicks hard left. Talk about energy retention these drilling's will work for less handed guy's but most drillers are afraid to go there for the chance the customer will make them eat the ball for suggestion.

Luckily i have younger drillers who are great bowlers also, that because i drill so many different ball's it was worth the chance for us to try it out. Dont be scared to punch up a strong cored ball with stronger cover with a super weak pin to pap, you might be amazed at what look it will give you that you will have never had before.

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2006, 08:54:20 PM »
I did not see the Rico pictured...cg in middle of palm.

You?

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2006, 05:05:46 AM »
ball barne's used to play outside line demonstration clearly had pin...palm centered...don't/couldn't tell where cg was...that's what I saw..

however...Duke the winner had a totally different lay-out...pin dead by ring finger...maybe..a 1/4 to 1/2 in high ...cg stacked or slightly swung towards val...60 deg...say...hard to tell.

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2006, 05:08:32 AM »
barne's inside line ball seemed to be what LL...was discribing...Jeff Carter also uses that drilling plenty.

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2006, 10:35:42 PM »
wow i thought Barnes had big hands... only 4 1/8 is not that much...

i have my amf terminal velocity with that drilling, and a HUGE weight hole below my pap, very controlable in oil, but it goes crazy on dry.
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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2007, 05:06:47 AM »
Pin far from pap = length pin below fingers = earlier revs and better read of the mid lane and smoother move off the break.

Pin above fingers = later revs less read of the mid lane and stronger move off the break.

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Re: A "length drilling"....
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2007, 12:33:28 PM »
^^ Couldn't have said it better.  Most accurate respose so far.
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