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ccrider

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Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« on: August 03, 2008, 07:14:09 AM »
Getting ready to drill a ball for my son who is a lefty.

Do all of the pitches change. For instance, on the thumb, if he calls for 1/8 right by the right hand chart, would that flip to left.

And for the fingerholes, where I would normally drill 0 and 5/8 right, should I change that to 0 and 5/8 left?

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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 03:27:41 PM »
yeah, I agree with BowlersDream
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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 03:47:58 PM »
My bad, maybe what I am asking is not clear. I understand and assure you that I have measured his hand.

I generally use the recommendation from Taylor's book as a starting point for thumb lateral pitch. The chart is set up for a right handed person. My question is, would the measurments apply the same for a left handed person, but the pitches flip.

The recommendation for fingertip pitch in order to avoid intersecting the fingerholes is 0 and 5/8 r. These figures are not about measurement, and are intended to avoid the holes intersecting when you drill them. I assume that for a lefty, you would do 0 and 5/8 left. Is this correct. I hope this makes clearer what I am asking.
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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 04:57:04 PM »
You shouldn't have to do anything special in measuring a left hand.  If the terminology is based on the the centerline (forward, reverse, left, right) there's no mirroring needed to be done.  If his flexibility calls for left, and left.  

Finger pitches should be irrelevant of left or right unless his hand calls for it.  I've always done 3/8 left and 3/8 right on the left and right fingers for new bowlers left handed and right handed and this doesn't connect at the bottom at 1 1/2 inches deep.


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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2008, 11:16:01 AM »
I will try the 3/8 3/8. Will make it a little easier to put in inserts.

His thumb measure indicates  1/8 right for a right handed person, using Taylor's chart, which I have found to be a good place to start. I wondered if you would flip this to 1/8 left since he is left handed.
 

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You shouldn't have to do anything special in measuring a left hand.  If the terminology is based on the the centerline (forward, reverse, left, right) there's no mirroring needed to be done.  If his flexibility calls for left, and left.  

Finger pitches should be irrelevant of left or right unless his hand calls for it.  I've always done 3/8 left and 3/8 right on the left and right fingers for new bowlers left handed and right handed and this doesn't connect at the bottom at 1 1/2 inches deep.


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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2008, 11:39:42 AM »
The only Bill Taylor chart I've seen is for forward/reverse thumb pitch, not lateral pitches.  But if you do have a lateral pitch chart that you believe (I prefer to check the thumb hinge and go from there), the direction should be reversed from the right handed direction.  --  JohnP

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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 11:46:55 AM »
The chart is in the back part of the book. It is based on the way that the thumb hinges and has a person gripping a round pole. It is prefaced by saying that for a right hand bowler, left thumb pitch is rarely indicated. I assume that you flip this for a left hand bowler.


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The only Bill Taylor chart I've seen is for forward/reverse thumb pitch, not lateral pitches.  But if you do have a lateral pitch chart that you believe (I prefer to check the thumb hinge and go from there), the direction should be reversed from the right handed direction.  --  JohnP

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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2008, 12:07:57 PM »
i cant believe people had to get so in depth for such a simple question... i dont drill balls but ive talked to a driller when drilling mine and he has looked at bill taylors chart and said "5/8 right so that would be 5/8 left for you" as i am left handed.

so the answer to this question is yes.
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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 03:10:47 PM »
May be my fault, as I may not have worded the question clear enough. Thanks for a simple answer. I figured some lefty on the board would look at this sooner or later and give me an answer.

As always, this board is a great source of info.

Thanks all,

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i cant believe people had to get so in depth for such a simple question... i dont drill balls but ive talked to a driller when drilling mine and he has looked at bill taylors chart and said "5/8 right so that would be 5/8 left for you" as i am left handed.

so the answer to this question is yes.
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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 05:40:15 PM »
Are you serious or just a beaaaach (nervous girl dog). What is your I. Q. Drilling a ball is not rocket science. I have been drilling for over a year, and do a better job than the so called experts at my big time pro shop, that drilled two balls for me without ever taking the time to watch me throw the first ball.

By the way, this same big time pro shop drilled balls for both of my sons, one left handed and one right handed, exactly the same except for span.

Thanks for your sage advice.

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Take your son to a good proshop.    Since you profess to being only a beginner bowler yourself, and with no references to your expertise as a driller, I shudder to think of you drilling balls for anyone.

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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 07:26:54 PM »
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Are you serious or just a beaaaach (nervous girl dog). What is your I. Q. Drilling a ball is not rocket science. I have been drilling for over a year, and do a better job than the so called experts at my big time pro shop, that drilled two balls for me without ever taking the time to watch me throw the first ball.

By the way, this same big time pro shop drilled balls for both of my sons, one left handed and one right handed, exactly the same except for span.

Thanks for your sage advice.

CC

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Take your son to a good proshop.    Since you profess to being only a beginner bowler yourself, and with no references to your expertise as a driller, I shudder to think of you drilling balls for anyone.

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WOW, this is not a very bright comment. There is alot more to drilling a bowling ball than drilling 3 or 4 holes in it. Just because you say you did it better than your big time pro shop doesn't mean you know what your doing. To help you with your question most things are opposite for a lefty. But, you have to check the flexibility of his hand and also determine all of his pitches from to side to side. Hopefully you have some type of measuring tool. This will assist you in checking all the things you need to check. I do agree that you need to see the bowler throw the ball in order to drill the person a proper ball with the proper layout. Just remember that there is more to it than drilling a couple of holes in the ball.
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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 08:04:15 PM »
You have been drilling for a YEAR and don't know how drilling for a lefty works? That's kind of hard to believe.
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Re: Drilling for Lefty, Is everything opposite
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 10:15:36 PM »
Again. Drilling is not rocket science. I promise, I have conquered much more difficult matters without any problem. Some of you may not have. Such is life.
I did not ask about flexibility. I did not ask about how to measure spans or pitches.

Look at the initial question. I simply ask do all the pitches change. I never really thought about drilling for a lefty at that time because I never had to. I must admit, if I had initially thought about it, rather than asking, I could have answered the question for myself, based on my knowledge and understanding of drilling and in much less time then it has taken me to write this post. But man, it is so much easier to ask some  of you assinine idiots than to actually think. Of course, that remark was not intended for all but if the shoe fits, wear it.


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