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apocalyptic_rabbit

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MB position. .
« on: November 05, 2007, 02:33:06 PM »
My Coach got a new ball last week or so (shift) was bowling with her on Sunday after league, when I noticed the Drill on it.

the pin looks about leverage.

but the MB is REALLY weird spot.. WELL left of the thumb...

No I am just

Curious as to what this would ACTUALLY do to a balls reaction..

She is looking for this to fit underneath an Original Paradigm...

The ball is laid out the same as all the other balls out driller does, except for the weird MB position...

I will post picks later once I get them off my camera



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apocalyptic_rabbit

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 11:38:59 PM »
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7027239

There is a link to the pic
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charlest

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2007, 03:49:18 AM »
Yes that is VERY unusual for a higher mass bias ball like the Shift. While MB position is always relative to the bowler's PAP and its distance from the PAP, that one looks like the ball will have a very late and very minimal breakpoint.

Now if she has a very slow ball speed and higher rev rate, that could beproper. I would not say it was wrong, but I'd be suspicious.

You'd have to ask the driller or watch the ball's reaction.

Of course if the driller is not aware of mass bias drilling techniques, he/she could have just ignored it and used only the pin and the CG.

If the ball weight is 13 pounds or less, it could have one of Storm's simpler symmetric core and not the asymmetric core which is in their 14, 15 and 16 lb balls. In that case, that drilling is just fine.


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shelley

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 06:26:22 AM »
If it's a lighter ball with a symmetric core, the MB wouldn't be marked.  I've seen a lightweight Vertigo and there was no marked MB.

My guess is that the driller is either not considering the MB or far, far smarter than most.

SH

Dan Belcher

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 06:34:57 AM »
Hmm... it's probably a bad thing if the first thing that comes to mind upon seeing that pic is "what the hell?"

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 06:39:56 AM »
I was also wondering... the MB in that position would be pretty "dangerous" for a right-handed high track player. Negative flare could occur.
If she has a low track/spinner style, the ball would IMHO work safely but she'd sacrifice much ball potential. A cheaper ball would IMHO have done the same job...

If it works for her, O.K., but I am with Dan Belcher on this one
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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 04:45:27 PM »
I know of an individual that is convinced she has to use exotic layouts to get balls to perform well for her, but that layout is absolutely ridiculous.  

Someone needs their head examined.   Either her, or the person responsible for laying it out.  (There is a very, very minimal chance that she needs this layout to get a decent reaction.  I'm thinking that the proshop just doesn't know any better.)

Sure, there's the possibility that the MB is mismarked, but that would be the first time I've heard of that sort of quality control issue with Storm.
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dumbcomputers

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 05:01:57 PM »
The question is what did the ball motion look like???

Looks like a No Mercy #1 drill, but that is specific to that core.

charlest

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 05:19:46 PM »
apocalyptic_rabbit,

How about a few replies to give us more info???
Without that, we can't help you and you and your coach will be "all at sea"! "Up the creek without a paddle"!
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solid9

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 06:32:23 PM »

 Guys take a look at the ball track, the driller knew what he was doing.

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 06:38:26 PM »
good eye solid

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apocalyptic_rabbit

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Re: MB position. .
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 11:14:19 PM »
Well she is a medium ball speed probably 12-14

she does have a kinda of spinner release...

it a 14 lbs ball so it should be an actual Shapelock...

sorry for the delayed response guys...

I tried to post earlier but it didn't work.

I know for a fact my driller doesn't really follow Mass Bias or even Pap Drillings....

I have pretty much layout my own stuff, or had it drilled elsewhere...

honestly if it will work... its a fluke
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Track:
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Columbia 300:
     Piranha
Brunswick:
     Target Zone  
This is our Paradigm