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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: jitter1127 on August 23, 2014, 10:01:02 PM
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I have a hammer no mercy death that was drilled at 45...3 3/8ths.....35 that was not hooking much for me. I have low revs/low track/12.5 degree tilt. My ball driller said the main reason the ball was not hooking much was the pin to PAP was not good for my style. He drilled a Track 505C2 for me at 30....4.5....35. I had not bowled all summer and the ball was hooking nice for me.....I threw 7 good strikes (3 ten pins) a washout, and a sloppy high strike that was a bad throw by me. Based on what I have been reading I thought a lower pin to PAP meant a stronger backend and he increased my pin to PAP so I was a bit confused by that.
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Just curios what is the surface on your No mercy?
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It was factory originally, but last year I used abralon pads on it. I believe I went with the 1000 grit for the final sand.
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Pins closer to leverage or 3 3/8" creates more reaction front to back not side to side as it bleeds energy earlier
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Did it give you a better reaction at box finish or when you added more surface?
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To echo justrico, pins closer to or at 3 3/8 for symmetrical balls will flare the most and try to Rev up the fastest. Shorter pin to PAP will reduced flare but place the core in a position to use energy in the front part of the lane. On asyms, it will tend to Rev up in the mids and without bigger angles, will create a smoother overall shape.
The layout chosen for the No Mercy is more of a midlane layout so you won't see a huge amount of down lane motion. The 505C2 is more of a down lane motion with a longer pin to pap and weaker cover which makes the ball bleed energy slower giving you the backend hook.
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the No Mercy have HART core which could only be drilled one way? This was developed because of the USBC rule that didn't go into effect.
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Rightycomplex is 100% correct.
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I think the drill sheet had 3 drillings...
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Oil soaked cover vs. fresh new cover.
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I dont know why i keep thinking its a No Mercy "death" its a no mercy "beat'n." I do not have the drill sheet for it as I bought it off someone who could not use it. Here is what I found though
"The No Mercy Beat'n features the same HART concept core found in the original No Mercy combined with the new Violent Hook Reactive coverstock to produce excellent all-purpose ball motion. Compared to the original No Mercy, the No Mercy Beat'n will provide more length, more aggressive backend reaction, and more total hook."
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Did it give you a better reaction at box finish or when you added more surface?
I liked the reaction better after I sanded it.....I am thinking about re-doing it again and maybe using a 500 pad as the final one.
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Sorry, 8
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I would probably try going all 6 side if using a spinner at 360 or 500 grit for 30 secs each side, then 1000 grit for 20 seconds each side.
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To the original bowler who posted this. To use a 3 3/8 pin to pap you need head oil so
the ball does not burn up and lose its energy to fast. I was of little hand also and when It was recommended that I use longer pin to paps the balls started hooking. I no longer had a down and end game only. Next slow down all of these balls will hook if you can get your speed to match up with your revs. Example I just drilled A Motiv Fire with a 4 7/8 pin to pap. First time out on fresh oil I held the ball chest high and stood 11 and played the 5 board with success 659 for 3 games. The next morning I went to a different house with a left over league shot from the night before. Same ball but I stood 30 board playing over 13 out to ten holding the ball as low as my arms allow me. shot 774 no tap most of the time I use less surface when I was drilling 3 3/8. So I guess what I am saying is try to match your speed to your revs or maybe a little slower most balls will hook. Just go watch the super seniors who are fighting the strong ball slow speed that comes from age. Or just slow down until it hooks.
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The No Mercy series of balls used special layouts because the true psa was not marked. If I remember correctly the recommended strong layout put the HART in the track. The HART actually marks the intermediate differential instead of the psa. To locate the true psa and use standard layouts based on its location find the spot that is 90 degrees (or 6 3/4") from both the pin and the HART. -- JohnP
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The heart symbol is directly below my thumb hole. Ill have to see if i can find the drilling diagrams. Do you think a 3rd drilling would hurt the ball? I also have a track animal with 2 drillings that i may consider getting redone.
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The No Mercy series of balls used special layouts because the true psa was not marked. If I remember correctly the recommended strong layout put the HART in the track. The HART actually marks the intermediate differential instead of the psa. To locate the true psa and use standard layouts based on its location find the spot that is 90 degrees (or 6 3/4") from both the pin and the HART. -- JohnP
Ok. Yea I remember that. It was a part of what was going to be the USBC rule where you couldn't have CG further than an inch to avoid needing a weight hole. Hammer was trying to be proactive and create a ball that delivered strong motion with the standard label leverage layout.
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I did a quick Google and found this on bowlingball.com. It doesn't show all the layouts, though. -- JohnP
http://www.bowlingball.com/info/hammer-layout-nomercy.html